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Postby anewman35 on February 6th, 2021, 5:57 pm
ilrider wrote:Opening date seems to have disappeared from the page. It is ridiculous if this park cannot open again this year. We went to three parks in three different states without any issues last year. With social distancing, masks, and possibly reservations to limit attendance, should be totally safe.


I doubt they have to close all season (although May may be a bit optimistic), especially if the reports about most people being able to get vaccines by summer are true (since if the State sticks to their rules, that's what there waiting for).

I will say 'I was at other parks without problems' isn't really that great an argument, because I'm sure even medical experts would agree that MOST of the time it's fine. The question (which I don't particularly think is worth debating here) basically is, is it worth having it open if it's fine 95% of the time (random made up number) but there might be an outbreak 5% or whatever. Different people/states/groups disagree on where that line is, obviously.
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Postby DejaVu2001 on February 19th, 2021, 9:32 am
UPDATE February 19th

A Six Flags corporate press release reveals opening day to be April 24

Six Flags Great America, the Thrill Capital of the Midwest, is preparing to open to the public on April 24. Hurricane Harbor Chicago will open on May 29 and the world-record breaking water coaster, Tsunami Surge will make its debut this summer. Towering an incredible 86 feet in height, this innovative water coaster will be the tallest-of-its-kind in the world. Riders will reach a top speed of 28 miles-per-hour over 950 feet of enclosed tunnels and open-air slides with three gravity-defying blasts and five breathtaking drops. Tsunami Surge will also feature AquaLucent technology, giving riders the sensation of traveling at the speed of light as brilliant colors and dreamlike imagery heighten the ride experience.


https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/ ... VDm41a9cVI

The same press release also states
Now we are hiring and preparing to reopen every Six Flags park in our system as we continue to work with state and government officials to set firm reopening dates for our parks in California, Illinois, Massachusetts, Mexico City, and Canada


What is interesting is that, of the parks in the states/countries mentioned, ours is the only one that gives a date. SFNE, SF Mexico, La Ronde basically say "preparing to reopen to the public this spring pending [insert relevant government here] reopening guidance"
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Postby coasterfanatic on February 19th, 2021, 3:53 pm
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Marcus LaShock says they are still awaiting state approval. Would have to image they feel good about getting approval if they are advertised the date.


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Postby anewman35 on February 19th, 2021, 4:03 pm
Or they're figuring if they advertise it and it doesn't happen, they can just blame the state and try to get some pressure on them to change their rules. Don't really see the downside from the Six Flags standpoint. Remains to be seen if it'll happen, though...
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Postby coasterfanatic on February 19th, 2021, 4:27 pm
Very true. He states that they have gotten approval for the water park! And uses the words “official” approval as if the state has maybe given them a timeline or potential reopening but hasn’t officially confirmed it. We shall see either way.


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Postby JackGlass on February 21st, 2021, 2:21 pm
I just watched the Nocoaster con video (it's on Great Americas facebook page) At the end of the video, there were two people with what looked like blue prints overlooking Buccaneer Battle.
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Postby anewman35 on February 21st, 2021, 2:51 pm
JackGlass wrote:I just watched the Nocoaster con video (it's on Great Americas facebook page) At the end of the video, there were two people with what looked like blue prints overlooking Buccaneer Battle.


It's on Instagram too.

Keep in mind though that this video also had a bunch of jokes about removing the Whizzer right beforehand and was aimed at a audience that presumably they expected to get the jokes (and hate BB), so it's hard to say if anything in the video was actually meant as any sort of tease or it was all just a joke.
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Postby Coaster Justin on February 21st, 2021, 6:18 pm
I would argue to SFGAm Marketing is almost as trolling as Tony Clark.

At least Tony answers questions and reveals stuff about food. Great America doesn't even do that much anymore. They couldn't announce a Hot Dog Stand last year?
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Postby anewman35 on February 21st, 2021, 8:28 pm
Coaster Justin wrote:I would argue to SFGAm Marketing is almost as trolling as Tony Clark.

At least Tony answers questions and reveals stuff about food. Great America doesn't even do that much anymore. They couldn't announce a Hot Dog Stand last year?


Forgot to mention there was also a tease of them doing something to the Eagle. Again, especialt given the audience, I think it was much more a joke than a hint...
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Postby BCarroll on February 28th, 2021, 6:35 pm
Assuming the park opens on April 24th as planned, do you think Justice League could remain closed? I know other parks have been able to "safely" open theirs, but with Illinois tight guidelines I don't have a strong feeling JL will be opening this season. Same can be said with Sky Trek Tower. STT was seldom open during the 2019 season and it seems highly unlikely they would be able to fit people in that cabin to allow for social distancing. Also, given that the cabin is such a small space, there is no air filtration system in there. If STT is allowed to open, I just don't see it being worth while to do so.
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Postby rctfr on March 1st, 2021, 11:18 am
BCarroll wrote:Assuming the park opens on April 24th as planned, do you think Justice League could remain closed? I know other parks have been able to "safely" open theirs, but with Illinois tight guidelines I don't have a strong feeling JL will be opening this season. Same can be said with Sky Trek Tower. STT was seldom open during the 2019 season and it seems highly unlikely they would be able to fit people in that cabin to allow for social distancing. Also, given that the cabin is such a small space, there is no air filtration system in there. If STT is allowed to open, I just don't see it being worth while to do so.

Good point. I had a similar concern for Batman's staircase and hallway leading to the station. I think there's a couple fans and vents in there, but that tight enclosed space gets really hot in the summer for a reason. I may dodge Batman this season unless it's a walk-on or station-wait, which (luckily) is fairly common these days. I'd be interested to know how other Batman clones that operated last season may have dealt with this (if at all).
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Postby momlovescoasters on March 1st, 2021, 9:00 pm
I’ve been to Busch Gardens, Disney and Universal since Oct. People should have a choice. If you are scared, don’t go. People that want to enjoy the park should be able to go. Employees that need the job should be able to work.
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Postby CoasterRiderSC on March 8th, 2021, 4:15 pm
momlovescoasters wrote:I’ve been to Busch Gardens, Disney and Universal since Oct. People should have a choice. If you are scared, don’t go. People that want to enjoy the park should be able to go. Employees that need the job should be able to work.



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Postby anewman35 on March 15th, 2021, 5:05 pm
Governor is supposed to be announcing some new steps in-between phases four and five in the next few days. Will be interesting to see if any of them impact the park, because under current guidelines they still wouldn't be allowed to open rides.
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Postby RobSFGAm on March 15th, 2021, 6:09 pm
Wonder how much California change in regards to park being able to open in CA on April 1 might help IL (if at all) as California was many times higher than IL.
I think with the vaccine, Chicago allowing large events in the summer (lalapalooza, Summerfest, etc.j could help as well.
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Postby anewman35 on March 15th, 2021, 6:47 pm
RobSFGAm wrote:Wonder how much California change in regards to park being able to open in CA on April 1 might help IL (if at all) as California was many times higher than IL.
I think with the vaccine, Chicago allowing large events in the summer (lalapalooza, Summerfest, etc.j could help as well.


I'm sure they'd say they don't care what any other state does, but I'm sure they actually do. Now that the other major states are allowing parks to open, I fully do believe they'll allow Great America to open, but it'll probably be pretty restricted in capacity. Similar thing happened with MLB games, Chicago was the last city that agreed to allow some attendence, once everybody else was allowing it to happen it became harder to be out on an island.

Still personally wouldn't expect things like Lollapalooza, because the planning for something like that has to happen so far in advance (when things are still a little uncertain), and the limits are likely to be so limited (even with the vaccine) to the point where they couldn't make the money they would need to be worth it, so I doubt we see many people trying to pull off anything this summer. Time will tell.
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Postby DejaVu2001 on March 16th, 2021, 5:38 am
https://wgntv.com/news/coronavirus/prit ... WVtKm_tiv4

Latest news on COVID restrictions in Illinois.
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Postby DejaVu2001 on March 18th, 2021, 4:36 am
Governor JB Pritzker is expected to make an announcement at 11:30am today regarding expanded vaccine eligibility and new reopening guidelines.
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Postby anewman35 on March 18th, 2021, 7:13 am
DejaVu2001 wrote:Governor JB Pritzker is expected to make an announcement at 11:30am today regarding expanded vaccine eligibility and new reopening guidelines.


It seems highly likely that whatever he says will allow the park to open, just hope he explicitly explains amusement parks this time instead of just making people read between the lines based on other catagories and trying to figure out what he means...
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Postby coasterfanatic on March 18th, 2021, 11:54 am
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This is document that details the phases in IL. According to this, amusement parks are allowed to open at 25% capacity in Phase 4. And expand to 60% in bridge phase!!!!!


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Postby anewman35 on March 18th, 2021, 12:04 pm
As I hoped, they did call out Amusement Parks this time. They're saying 25% capacity in Phase 4 (i.e. now) and 60% capacity in the 'Bridge' phase which comes when 70% of 65+ people get vaccines (we're currently at 58%). So seems like it's officially on

(Edit - found the details, the * is just saying it's a change, so we're good...)

(Edit 2: just noticed that people who have had the vaccine or a negative test don't count against the capacity limits, so technically they can do more than 25%, but I doubt they'll want to bother with confirming vaccine or Covid status...)
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Postby DejaVu2001 on March 18th, 2021, 12:17 pm
Here is the link with the complete guidelines for amusement parks. Highlights will be listed below

https://dceocovid19resources.com/restor ... ent-parks/

Park capacity is limited to 25% in Phase 4, 60% in the Bridge Phase


Visitors from outside the state or country should receive a negative COVID-19 test within 72 hours of their visit to the park
I have no idea how they expect this to be enforced, or if they even realize how big an issue this is given SFGAm's proximity to the Wisconsin border

Ensure at least 6-ft between seats on rides occupied by park guests that are not members of the same household or party
So while other parks fortunately are relaxing distancing ON rides, SFGAm's ride capacity will be absolutely decimated

Amusement park rides should be sanitized after every ride cycle
Again, ride capacity will be horrible
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Postby anewman35 on March 18th, 2021, 4:16 pm
This seems worth noting:. This Bridge Phase will begin when 70-percent of Illinois residents 65 and up have received at least one vaccine dose. If numbers stay on track relative to current statistics, this phase would begin in 12-14 days (between March 30 and April 1). This would then initiate a 28-day monitoring period where if metrics continue to move in a positive direction, the State can then move to Phase 5, which means all businesses can fully reopen along with schools and normal recreation operations with new safety guidance. Large events, including festivals and conventions, would also be able to take place.

(So, long story short, by the time the park opens we might already be at 60%, and shortly after opening it might get to Phase 5, which means almost all restrictions go away...)
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Postby DejaVu2001 on March 18th, 2021, 4:21 pm
^Don't forget to factor in that the overall 16+ population must reach 50% vaccination as well to move to Phase 5.
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Postby anewman35 on March 18th, 2021, 5:02 pm
DejaVu2001 wrote:^Don't forget to factor in that the overall 16+ population must reach 50% vaccination as well to move to Phase 5.


Yeah, I was just coming to update that, the source I was copying from hasn't included that and I didn't realize it. So it probably pushes the timeline back a bit, but it still seems fairly safe to say we should be in Phase 5 in mid summer by the latest, barring any setbacks.
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