Tidal_Waver wrote:This would be an interesting replacement for one of our water rides. Was part of a Carrowinds survey:
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If it's well themed i'd accept this over some stupid RMC T-Rex
GreatAmericanFox - We finally agree on something! I do NOT want a single rail coaster here either! Low capacity and I've heard bad things about some of them.
Single Day Ride Count Record
50 rides 8/17/2018 (Without Flash Pass - Coasters After Dark)
The recent closures that were announced after the fact, as well as budding rumors about more to come (Bat, KI) have me wondering if GAm will get visited by the coaster grinch as well, even this offseason. Most concerned about Demon and Giant Drop.
Muck Finnesota wrote:The recent closures that were announced after the fact, as well as budding rumors about more to come (Bat, KI) have me wondering if GAm will get visited by the coaster grinch as well, even this offseason. Most concerned about Demon and Giant Drop.
Alright....
Like i said we'll see about Demon when Rakshasa opens because it pretty much saved Demon for a bit. Someone here also made a point about CF Management nor removing Arrow Loopers as often as you think. Plus with the park knowing Demon is classic, i see it has a few years to go.
Giant Drop would be dumb to remove, i don't ride it often but i can't see the park removing it, especilly it's the only one in the chain that's well themed, so that alone gives it more immunity than the other Intamin Giant Drops
Old Great America was better, however I hope just a bit of that charm comes back
Muck Finnesota wrote:The recent closures that were announced after the fact, as well as budding rumors about more to come (Bat, KI) have me wondering if GAm will get visited by the coaster grinch as well, even this offseason. Most concerned about Demon and Giant Drop.
Alright....
Like i said we'll see about Demon when Rakshasa opens because it pretty much saved Demon for a bit. Someone here also made a point about CF Management nor removing Arrow Loopers as often as you think. Plus with the park knowing Demon is classic, i see it has a few years to go.
Giant Drop would be dumb to remove, i don't ride it often but i can't see the park removing it, especilly it's the only one in the chain that's well themed, so that alone gives it more immunity than the other Intamin Giant Drops
Sadly, Cedar Fair doesn't care about nostalgia or rides being well themed. They just imploded the parachute tower at Great Adventure and a few years back removed volcano and the crypt at Kings dominion which were very well themed. When it comes to Cedar Fair, it's all about the $$$
However, I agree with you. I don't think Demon or giant drop will be on the chopping block anytime soon. I still believe the next rides to go will be the water rides in the dry park (Rapids and the flumes) American Eagle is in really bad shape, but I think they would choose refurbishment over demolition.
With all these "sudden" closures, I'm worried for our park. What will they deem "expensive" or inadequate to perform here? This is getting kinda buck wild.
CoastsToCoasters wrote:With all these "sudden" closures, I'm worried for our park. What will they deem "expensive" or inadequate to perform here? This is getting kinda buck wild.
Yes! Now Anaconda at Kings dominion is biting the dust. Cedar fair is doubling down on removing costly/unpopular attractions. They don't give a damn about nostalgia or sentimental value
I still believe the rapids will be the next one to bite the dust at Great America.
CoasterRiderSC wrote: JackGlass - what are your thoughts on this??
Why does his opinion matter if you know very well that removing both flumes and rapids is something they're not going to do, especially just to force people to go to HH. If anything i find the Go-Karts to have a higher chance of removal than any of the water rides
Old Great America was better, however I hope just a bit of that charm comes back
CoasterRiderSC wrote: JackGlass - what are your thoughts on this??
Why does his opinion matter if you know very well that removing both flumes and rapids is something they're not going to do, especially just to force people to go to HH. If anything i find the Go-Karts to have a higher chance of removal than any of the water rides
It matters because we base things on Cedar Fairs actual business model not emotions and nostalgia for the 1970's. Cedar Fair is axing rides that are costly/unpopular. In order to reduce operating expenses and free up space for future investments.
The exact numbers are unknown to the general public as to how much these rides cost. But based on Cedar Fairs past removals, flumes and rapids have been on the chopping block.
If they'll remove Kindga Ka, anything is on the table. As far as the go karts go, I would love to see them removed, but if they're making money they will not be removed.
CoasterRiderSC wrote: JackGlass - what are your thoughts on this??
Why does his opinion matter if you know very well that removing both flumes and rapids is something they're not going to do, especially just to force people to go to HH. If anything i find the Go-Karts to have a higher chance of removal than any of the water rides
It matters because we base things on Cedar Fairs actual business model not emotions and nostalgia for the 1970's. Cedar Fair is axing rides that are costly/unpopular. In order to reduce operating expenses and free up space for future investments.
The exact numbers are unknown to the general public as to how much these rides cost. But based on Cedar Fairs past removals, flumes and rapids have been on the chopping block.
I tend to think the CF executives agree that each Amusement Park should have water rides, that tend to be family rides. Our sister park still has its rapids ride, which is older if I’m not mistaken:
If CF removes ALL the water rides from the dry side and doesn’t replace them with new water rides, that is a dumb business decision. Do you disagree with that logic?
I’ll reference this article which lists SFGAm as having 22 family rides (at time of writing.) They list 5 classics, 2 of which are Roaring Rapids and Loggers Run:
The flumes and rapids remain VERY popular at the park. As far as costs, I’d just be guessing.
I stand by my opinion that there will be backlash if the flumes and rapids go. But in my opinion there is zero chance the dry side ends up with zero water rides if the 3 current ones are removed. Just my humble opinion and prediction.
Tidal Waver, I completely agree that the dry side should have at least 1 water ride. If rapids and flumes bit the dust one of those plots should be replaced by a signature water ride.
JackGlass wrote:Tidal Waver, I completely agree that the dry side should have at least 1 water ride. If rapids and flumes bit the dust one of those plots should be replaced by a signature water ride.
Glad we agree there!!
And Cali’s Rapids was built in 1988, so ours is actually older. I was wrong in my original post.
My question was purely rhetorical and speculative. I do NOT want the flumes to be removed!
As for the rapids, that's a different story. That ride hasn't really operated much the last 2-3 seasons.
If the flumes get removed, put in a water coaster like Poseidon! It has excellent capacity, and is both a water ride and a coaster. And to make a certain person on here ecstatic it can be heavily themed!
Single Day Ride Count Record
50 rides 8/17/2018 (Without Flash Pass - Coasters After Dark)
CoasterRiderSC wrote:My question was purely rhetorical and speculative. I do NOT want the flumes to be removed!
As for the rapids, that's a different story. That ride hasn't really operated much the last 2-3 seasons.
If the flumes get removed, put in a water coaster like Poseidon! It has excellent capacity, and is both a water ride and a coaster. And to make a certain person on here ecstatic it can be heavily themed!
Right? I love the log flumes and hope they stick around too. It's just based on Cedar Fairs recent business decisions; older water rides seem to be high on the list for removal.
It was just like when the old Six Flags removed Great American raceway for X-Flight. It was sad to see raceway go, but from a business perspective. It made sense. The ride wasn't popular, it cost a lot to upkeep and it was replaced by a reliable B&M that the general public enjoys.
Goku1910 wrote:X-Flight's line is always short, so I wouldn't say it's popular with the general public. I would say it's liked, not loved. .
Well it’s become rough. Shockwave wasn’t popular either with the roughness. Dudes can say all day “it’s not rough! I love that ride!” But everyone has an opinion.
If X-Flight is rough, then the standards of smoothness have skyrocketed. I find that Goliath has aged far worse than X-Flight has, despite only being two years apart.
My only advice for people who find it rough is stick to the inside seats.
"I've been told that some part of every wish will be heard but lately I lost sight of the truth in those words."
Goku1910 wrote:If X-Flight is rough, then the standards of smoothness have skyrocketed.
Hitting your head on X Flight hurts. Sorry that my standards have changed but I, and other people don’t enjoy pain.
Goku1910 wrote: My only advice for people who find it rough is stick to the inside seats.
Both sides hurt. I’ve already posted my analysis on this. Maybe this fix it for 2025. 2024 X Flight hurt.
For context, my most painful coaster ride was 2023 Skyrush. Back row left side edge seat. Couldn’t walk right the for the rest of the day. Thighs were severely crushed. I’m 5/10, 165 lbs.
