My Ideas to improve SFGAm!!

[Jamesb58]

Hey Everybody!

I'm new to this Forum so, bare with me if this topic has been discussed before.

I love SFGAm. I've been coming here for years, but even with Superman and the new Mardi Gras area, I still think that SFGAm could improve the park.

How could it improve, you ask? Well, my idea, is to, first, get rid of the black top. During the summer of 2003, I got the chance to go to Six Flags Magic Mountain, where they have a light color concrete, and it was great. Clean and cool. When it was 100 degree's out, the ground didn't get as hot, so it made walking easier. So my first idea is to replace the Black Top with light Gray Concrete.

My second idea is to bring back SHOCKWAVE. I know the coaster had problems, especially after the breaking section, but with work, I think it could be fixed and would really bring more people back to the park. Give it a new color, and put it over near Raging Bull.

In addition to Shockwave, they should really invest on bringing a Floorless Coaster to the park. I know there was that rumor that they would bring one in 2005, but do you really think that will happen? I don't. After spending "stupid" money on the Mardi Gras section, I don't believe that they would be able to afford a new coaster.

I believe that if they got a Floorless coaster, I really think that they will start to make more money, and will start to become a steady competitor with the rest of the parks. I would really like to see SFGAm compete with Cedar Point. Also imagine SFGAm with the worlds Tallest rollercoaster, or the with a coaster that holds the record with the most inversions, OR, for the fun of it, the worlds 2nd, 4D Coaster!

What do you all think? What improvements do you feel that SFGAm should make? Should they bring back Shockwave? I look forward to your comments.

Cya!
James B.
Extreme Coasters Incorporated
"Where Extreme is our Middle Names"

[SFGA 11]

I like the concrete idea but I do not think Shockwave wil come back.

[RagingBullDude13]

I don't think it will, and I don't think it should.

[w00dland]

I think just about anybody were would like to see either a floorless, 4D, or have shockwave come back. But personally I don't think ANY of those will happen in the near future. Just like we've all been saying the past few months...

Jamesb58 Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2004 5:36 pm Post subject: My Ideas to improve SFGAm!!

In addition to Shockwave, they should really invest on bringing a Floorless Coaster to the park. I know there was that rumor that they would bring one in 2005, but do you really think that will happen? I don't. After spending "stupid" money on the Mardi Gras section, I don't believe that they would be able to afford a new coaster.

I dont think its "stupid" money at all. This if anything could HELP bring a floorless coaster come in at some time, probably not in 2005 though. I'm going to stop now before people think I'm spreading rumors. This is all just my opinion

[ShortChilli]

It sounds okay, but I would rather have a new coaster rather than bring back Shockwave, even though a lot of people like it.

[w00dland]

^But thats the thing, people DIDN'T like Shockwave, thats why the took it down in the first place. It hurt people who didn't want to get hurt on a roller coaster, thats why people didn't go on it ever again. Which is why its queue line was always short. Which is why they took that down instead of Whizzer.^

[ShortChilli]

Listen, your going over your head here. I just said people liked it. I mean, look at all the people on here that liked it, and want it back. Maybe you didn't like it; I didn't either. But you shouldn't make it look like your the "right" one here.

[ShortChilli]

Six Flags could also lower some of their prices for food and in the shops.

[w00dland]

Haha, I did like shockwave, one of my favorite coasters, it's just that every non-coaster enthusiast I talk to absolutly hated it.

[Jamesb58]

OH I AGREE BIG TIME, on prices. They are horrible! I even think that the price of admission is pretty bad. I would pay $41.00 for Cedar Point, but not for SFGAm. Personally, our park doesn't have enought "stuff" for me to pay $41. But I don't have to worry about it, since I have a season pass!

With the whole Shockwave thing, I personally wanted to see it back, cause I do enjoy the ride. I agree, it did hurt, but I think it could be fixed. If I had my way, I would eliminate Whizzer, since I hate that ride, but I have to respect other people's opinion. Thats why another idea of mine, is to move Whizzer to another area of the park, and put another coaster in it's place. That would be a perfect place to put a Floorless.

[CoasterDave316]

Well the Shockwave subject has been talked about on here several times. It's gone. Unlike now, before Shockwave was torn down very few people liked the ride. Now every enthusiast and there mother wants the ride back, if it had been that way before Shockwave was removed maybe it still would have been there.

As for Mardi Gras being a waste of "stupid" money. It's not all about coasters. You might not ride the flat rides at the park but other people do. The Mardi Gras addition is a awesome addition to the park and hardly a waste of "stupid" money. It completes the park, bringing life back to what in my opinion was the only dead part of the park.

And I didn't notice much difference between the paths at SFMM and the paths at SFGAm. SFMM paths don't go through the rough chicago winters and thus should be in better shape then the paths at SFGAm. Id hardly say that the color of the paths make the place feel "Clean and Cool" because I got neither feeling at SFMM.

And as for pricing, $41 for SFGAm is a hell of a deal. Especially when you can find half off coupons and stuff basically everywhere. You want to talk about bad pricing look at parks like Universal Studios Hollywood where they charge $52 for a park that has about 9 attractions. Cedar Point is no more worth the admission price then SFGAm, they both have there own things to offer. Cedar Point offers the tallest and fastest, while SFGAm offers a such variety of different rides and coasters that you can't find in any other park.

We have plenty of "stuff" as well with over 60 rides and attractions. You are also paying for at least 8 hours to enjoy all these rides which breaks down to about $5 an hour. Meanwhile, im sure you go and pay the $9 admission price at the theatre's to see a hour and a half movie.

[Galvan]

OH I AGREE BIG TIME, on prices. They are horrible! I even think that the price of admission is pretty bad. I would pay $41.00 for Cedar Point, but not for SFGAm. Personally, our park doesn't have enought "stuff" for me to pay $41. But I don't have to worry about it, since I have a season pass!

Why do people seem to elevate Cedar Point to the almighty? Who cares about Cedar Point, its CP this CP that... Yeah its a great park,But dont make it seem like its the greatest thing since sliced bread because its not. Cedar Point is a country-wide attraction park, GA is for now a local/regional park, id like to keep it that way. I find it rather annoying to hear the quote "Id pay 41 dollars to CP and not GA, that is a bunch a crap, If you like CP so much return your season pass and go to CP because then it would be one less person id have to stand behind in line at Great America.

[Mr. SFGAm]

Haha, I did like shockwave, one of my favorite coasters, it's just that every non-coaster enthusiast I talk to absolutly hated it.

Exactly.
Even though it wasn't a favorite, I still liked it. But of everyone I talked to at my high school, college, and family, I only found two other people ever that liked it. So what does that say?

After spending "stupid" money on the Mardi Gras section, I don't believe that they would be able to afford a new coaster.

Take a look at PKI. They haven't gotten a 'big' coaster since Son Of Beast in 2000. Since then, they've added a new kids area, kiddie coaster, two awesome flats, kids dark ride, and a new water park. And their attendance goes up every year.

[Adix]

James, welcome to the forum...

A few notes:
1) Enthusiasts do not not know better than the people running the park. How many of us have the training in buisness and mechanical engineering to even possibly really know what's going on?

2) Enthusiasts are a tiny fraction of the actual attendance to any park. Just because we like something doesn't mean the 'General Public' does. Just because we don't like something, doesn't mean it's not immensely popular with the GP.

3) Anyone who knows what's going on is contractually bound not to tell. Therefore, those who know don't talk, and those who talk don't know. Those who talk and know are quickly found and fired.

4) Coasters appeal to Enthusiasts, but it's the GP that bring in the money to parks. Think about it. I pay, what, maybe... $100 all year to SF, with the season pass, and maybe a churro every so often. That's a total steal. A family of 5 (Mom / Dad / 2 Girls / Annoying little brother), for instance, will pay ~$200 for tickets alone, plus food, and games, and whatnot. Suppose that they come 3 times a year, which is more than many, and SF will have made upwards of $700 from them. Therefore, new rides and attractions will be decided based on what they want. This new area is designed to attract families, which is exactly what SFGAm needs. THrow in a waterpark, as many other parks have, and SF would have an all-around winner of a park.

5) The only parks really competing with Cedar Point are in Ohio. We're not in their region, which is why it would be pointless to try and one-up them. We are, in fact, pretty much alone in this region, which is why we're blessed to have a good park, and not neglected because there's no competition.


Count your blessings, think before you post, wise men know they know nothing.

[coasterdude12]

If great america used land they hadn't used before (like a parking lot or somethin'), put about 8 flat rides and 4 roller coasters, X, Goliath,SCREAM!, and a family coaster they would have 17 coasters and have more than SFMM.

I know they must be doing this because they rose the price 2 bucks.


The new territory would be an extension of Plymouth Place or County Fair.


Although they'd have 17 coasters SFMM would have about 19 by the time this happened.

Cedar point might squeeze in a couple more also

[RedOne3781]

Count your blessings, think before you post, wise men know they know nothing.

Can I steal that quote and use it as my signature? lol. Well said. (not just in this instance, but when it comes to message boards in general).

[CoasterKing]

i agree with coasterdude. like he said that if great america added like five coasters and had more than magic mounatin and cedar point, then those parks would add ike ten more. Besides cedar point all they are doing is going for records, think about it millenium force fastest tallest, and top thrill dragster breaking tallest and fastest, even though they look like really fun rides

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[da rcman2001]

I have tons of ideas for improving the park. Some are a little crazy but dooable, and others are just smart things that are extremely possible and six flags never does um.

Easy Ideas:
1. To make the park cleaner, power wash the midways every night with street cleaners to get gum off.

2. Have a park maintenence employee in every bathroom during every opperating hour of the day.

3. Install misters over all the walkways and in lines that spray out a mixture of air freshener and water to get ridd of B.O., sewage odors, and the smell that comes from the waste treatment plant a mile away.

4. Reconnect Yukon territory and Bug's Ukon adv. into one big area, and install an interractive water play area with a big water bucket and crap like that, plus water slides themed to the pac. north west with names reffering to the timber industry (4got what its really called) like buzzsaw and stuff. Surround the play area with todem poles and pine trees.

5. Give Pictorium motion/ interactive seets and give it a Matrix 3: Revolutions 4D ride film with a themed queue next to go carts (flip the enterence and the exit). Add themeing in the side wall near the enterence (or the current exit0 to the theatre and expand the building out to make room for a cool sign and loading room.

6. Construct the six flags stage thats really just a park icon from gadv's fountain to the centerpiece of ssa's plaza.

7. Repave the enterence plaza to all brick.

More later ,gotta go.

[coasterdude12]

That would be lovely

[SFGA 11]

I like your ideas.

[Drkstarboard]

Why do people seem to elevate Cedar Point to the almighty? Who cares about Cedar Point, its CP this CP that... Yeah its a great park,But dont make it seem like its the greatest thing since sliced bread because its not. Cedar Point is a country-wide attraction park, GA is for now a local/regional park, id like to keep it that way. I find it rather annoying to hear the quote "Id pay 41 dollars to CP and not GA, that is a bunch a crap, If you like CP so much return your season pass and go to CP because then it would be one less person id have to stand behind in line at Great America.

WOW!
Magor disagreement in this forum. But so I dont get yelled at I agree 100% with you Galvan316. Why dont you return your Six Flags Great America season pass and get a Cedar Point season pass?


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^ Mahamidalli is fighting to fight in this forum so Six Flags Great America wins agenst Cedar Point

[SFGA 11]

Here are some of my improvements:

1). Add some fountains to the reflection pond.

2). Add more landscaping especially in areas like around SSA, SWT etc..

3). Touch up paints on alot of the buildings, rails etc..

[SFGAmfan]

Here's my ideas to improve the park:

1. Touch up the themeing in Yukon Territory and Yankee Harbor.

2. Add more fountains and landscaping.

3. Misters in lines.

4. Bring back that garden walkway shade thing that was right by Sky Whirl and add that to other parts of the park.

5. Have 2 people operating the flat rides.

6. Add a waterpark within the park.

7. Get rid of Fastlane and add Q-bot.

8. Widen Viper's exit line. When someone comes through it in a wheelchair, its a tight squeeze to get around them.

9. Add a decent movie/3d movie in the Pictorium.

That's all I can think of right now. I think those are all very plausable and can greatly enhance the park atmosphere.

[SFGA 11]

I forgot one:
Put a different thing on the TV's instead of commercials. Like that old thing they had with the making of Great America.

[Drkstarboard]

have Vipers station orginized. It's Congestid a lot