CoasterRiderSC wrote:^^ JackGlass - How do you really feel about noisy neighbors and the noise?!
Also don't sell Superman short! That Pretzel is a nice sight to see at the entrance. I love your idea about using the grass area for parking to make room for a new coaster!
As for a Pace lot, how many people from Chicago actually would take a bus here?
A few years ago in my town, there was a new apartment complex proposed on the site of an old banquet hall. The Karens came out of the woodwork clucking about it. Thankfully, the city council ignored all of them and granted the permits/zoning change.
Yes! That current bus parking lot would open a huge amount of space for a new coaster. It's about the same size if not larger than Superman's current plot of land
Now that they pushed the entrance of the park forward, it's easy to build an entrance/exit to a new coaster in the bus parking lot. I understand why Green lantern gets a lot of hate. It's because of those stand-up trains and bulky over the shoulder restraints that slam your head back and forth. I think it could be a great ride if it was converted to a floorless or sit down and received new age B&M trains like decepticoaster has.
Hypothetically speaking. Imagine how much raging bull would suck if it had those bulky over the shoulder restraints instead of lap bars. Those restraints really make a difference
coasterfanatic wrote:Based on the parks push to not get a Dr D clone and get a new better Dive Coaster, I don’t think a relocated ride will come to our park. This isn’t JRA or Salim anymore.
That's not how I understood the Dr. D comments. I interpreted it as Dr. D was designed for our space, but the park decided (for whatever reason) to wait for something bigger and better, so SFFT ended up with it. Rather than getting a clone of Dr. D. I could very well be wrong.
I don't see Green Lantern coming to the park. Honestly not sure where everyone is getting that from.
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coasterfanatic wrote:Based on the parks push to not get a Dr D clone and get a new better Dive Coaster, I don’t think a relocated ride will come to our park. This isn’t JRA or Salim anymore.
That's not how I understood the Dr. D comments. I interpreted it as Dr. D was designed for our space, but the park decided (for whatever reason) to wait for something bigger and better, so SFFT ended up with it. Rather than getting a clone of Dr. D. I could very well be wrong.
I don't see Green Lantern coming to the park. Honestly not sure where everyone is getting that from.
Daydreams, i too don't see it at all like why?
Old Great America was better, however I hope just a bit of that charm comes back
coasterfanatic wrote:Based on the parks push to not get a Dr D clone and get a new better Dive Coaster, I don’t think a relocated ride will come to our park. This isn’t JRA or Salim anymore.
That's not how I understood the Dr. D comments. I interpreted it as Dr. D was designed for our space, but the park decided (for whatever reason) to wait for something bigger and better, so SFFT ended up with it. Rather than getting a clone of Dr. D. I could very well be wrong.
I don't see Green Lantern coming to the park. Honestly not sure where everyone is getting that from.
Daydreams, i too don't see it at all like why?
It's all speculation, nothing more. But as far as why? The park lacks a high capacity looper. If it does in fact get removed from Great Adventure, relocating it to Great America would make sense because it was originally supposed to come here and 99.9% of the general public wouldn't know that it was a relocation or care for that matter. They would just see a large new roller coaster for the parks 50th anniversary which would sell more season passes and make more $ which is the entire point of the parks existence
coasterfanatic wrote:Based on the parks push to not get a Dr D clone and get a new better Dive Coaster, I don’t think a relocated ride will come to our park. This isn’t JRA or Salim anymore.
That's not how I understood the Dr. D comments. I interpreted it as Dr. D was designed for our space, but the park decided (for whatever reason) to wait for something bigger and better, so SFFT ended up with it. Rather than getting a clone of Dr. D. I could very well be wrong.
I don't see Green Lantern coming to the park. Honestly not sure where everyone is getting that from.
Daydreams, i too don't see it at all like why?
Someone on these very forums said it was coming here, so that's where I got it from. However, the user later confirmed it was false and a joke.
JackGlass wrote:It's all speculation, nothing more. But as far as why? The park lacks a high capacity looper. If it does in fact get removed from Great Adventure, relocating it to Great America would make sense because it was originally supposed to come here and 99.9% of the general public wouldn't know that it was a relocation or care for that matter. They would just see a large new roller coaster for the parks 50th anniversary which would sell more season passes and make more $ which is the entire point of the parks existence
Even without speculating, they would have no reason to
Old Great America was better, however I hope just a bit of that charm comes back
JackGlass wrote:It's all speculation, nothing more. But as far as why? The park lacks a high capacity looper. If it does in fact get removed from Great Adventure, relocating it to Great America would make sense because it was originally supposed to come here and 99.9% of the general public wouldn't know that it was a relocation or care for that matter. They would just see a large new roller coaster for the parks 50th anniversary which would sell more season passes and make more $ which is the entire point of the parks existence
Even without speculating, they would have no reason to
Seriously? Dude the entire point of Great Americas existence is to make money. How does a theme park make money? By adding new attractions that the customer base actually wants in order to bring in more guests. No offense, but some of the things you've said such as "Remove Vertical velocity for a light house" and "Remove the go karts and move little dipper for a bugs bunny land" When they could simply retheme Camp cartoon or Kidzopolis shows you don't understand much when it comes to spending wisely or bringing in more guests/
This is just fun speculation based on a rumor that may or may not be true. But let's think for a second, what would bring in more guests for the parks 50th anniversary? A large reliable B&M at the front of the park? or removing Vertical Velocity for a light house? hmmm
JackGlass wrote:Seriously? Dude the entire point of Great Americas existence is to make money. How does a theme park make money? By adding new attractions that the customer base actually wants in order to bring in more guests. No offense, but some of the things you've said such as "Remove Vertical velocity for a light house" and "Remove the go karts and move little dipper for a bugs bunny land" When they could simply retheme Camp cartoon or Kidzopolis shows you don't understand much when it comes to spending wisely or bringing in more guests/
This is just fun speculation based on a rumor that may or may not be true. But let's think for a second, what would bring in more guests for the parks 50th anniversary? A large reliable B&M at the front of the park? or removing Vertical Velocity for a light house? hmmm
They're getting Rakshasa, no point for B&M standup at the park.
Old Great America was better, however I hope just a bit of that charm comes back
JackGlass wrote:Seriously? Dude the entire point of Great Americas existence is to make money. How does a theme park make money? By adding new attractions that the customer base actually wants in order to bring in more guests. No offense, but some of the things you've said such as "Remove Vertical velocity for a light house" and "Remove the go karts and move little dipper for a bugs bunny land" When they could simply retheme Camp cartoon or Kidzopolis shows you don't understand much when it comes to spending wisely or bringing in more guests/
This is just fun speculation based on a rumor that may or may not be true. But let's think for a second, what would bring in more guests for the parks 50th anniversary? A large reliable B&M at the front of the park? or removing Vertical Velocity for a light house? hmmm
They're getting Rakshasa, no point for B&M standup at the park.
Rakshasa is a dive, Green lantern is a standup. Two completely different models. Even if they were to bring it to Great America, it would almost certainly be converted to a floorless or sit-down. Seeing as that B&M has been doing these conversions for over a decade now.
Bro I think Santas Village is a little bit more up your alley. You clearly want Great America to revert back to how it was in the 1970's. Barely any roller coasters and a bunch of family rides.
JackGlass wrote:Seriously? Dude the entire point of Great Americas existence is to make money. How does a theme park make money? By adding new attractions that the customer base actually wants in order to bring in more guests. No offense, but some of the things you've said such as "Remove Vertical velocity for a light house" and "Remove the go karts and move little dipper for a bugs bunny land" When they could simply retheme Camp cartoon or Kidzopolis shows you don't understand much when it comes to spending wisely or bringing in more guests/
This is just fun speculation based on a rumor that may or may not be true. But let's think for a second, what would bring in more guests for the parks 50th anniversary? A large reliable B&M at the front of the park? or removing Vertical Velocity for a light house? hmmm
After seeing a POV, I think Green Lantern would be perfect for the 50th. Just add some floorless trains, since the ride is a little rough, but besides that, I think the ride is find as it is. Plus, the park could call it Shockwave, repaint the coaster, and you've got a great addition reminiscent of old additions to the park. Not to mention the number of inversions is the exact same.
The park president said that Dr. D was designed for the space WOR is going into & it is so wild to me we could have had that. I'm also VERY thankful they decided against it cause as mentioned before, it's just an alright dive. The designs they showed prior to choosing the final layout were much better without the MCBR honestly. Even understanding that capacity is the sole reason for including the MCBR, It's bizarre they went with the layout it has today. I'll gladly take Rakshasa over it. Gladly.
As for Green Lantern, it is not coming here. If it does, I'll wear a shirt in the park on opening that says "I WAS WRONG". I'm truly confident that IF GL leaves SFGAdv, it will never find its way to SFGAm again & it'll go to a smaller park in the chain.
Also, it went to my spam, but a survey was sent out about future plans. It only mentions a kids area that's not themed to Looney Tunes or The Peanuts. Like a generic theme. So it seems SFGAm has plans for either Kidz or Camp.
It also asked "things you wouldn't miss if removed". My answer was very tasteful. TDK. Cough, cough.
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Goku1910 wrote:Also, it went to my spam, but a survey was sent out about future plans. It only mentions a kids area that's not themed to Looney Tunes or The Peanuts. Like a generic theme. So it seems SFGAm has plans for either Kidz or Camp.
It also asked "things you wouldn't miss if removed". My answer was very tasteful. TDK. Cough, cough.
Goku - Can you forward that survey at all?? I would love to do it!
Oh - leave Dark Knight right where it is! Very reliable, fun, family coaster, dark ride. Little Dipper can go though! An absolute waste of space!
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Goku1910 wrote:Also, it went to my spam, but a survey was sent out about future plans. It only mentions a kids area that's not themed to Looney Tunes or The Peanuts. Like a generic theme. So it seems SFGAm has plans for either Kidz or Camp.
It also asked "things you wouldn't miss if removed". My answer was very tasteful. TDK. Cough, cough.
Goku - Can you forward that survey at all?? I would love to do it!
Oh - leave Dark Knight right where it is! Very reliable, fun, family coaster, dark ride. Little Dipper can go though! An absolute waste of space!
NGl, wish the Theater Royal came back, those old Bug Bunny shows were great and i think they can provied a good way to get rid of overcowdeness, the just gotta be advertised more tho
Old Great America was better, however I hope just a bit of that charm comes back
Goku1910 wrote:Also, it went to my spam, but a survey was sent out about future plans. It only mentions a kids area that's not themed to Looney Tunes or The Peanuts. Like a generic theme. So it seems SFGAm has plans for either Kidz or Camp.
It also asked "things you wouldn't miss if removed". My answer was very tasteful. TDK. Cough, cough.
Oh same, i'd like to do it too.
I wish the Kids area wasn't generic themed, the Looney Tunes should get a land here, especially since they've been here since day 1
Old Great America was better, however I hope just a bit of that charm comes back
Goku1910 wrote:Also, it went to my spam, but a survey was sent out about future plans. It only mentions a kids area that's not themed to Looney Tunes or The Peanuts. Like a generic theme. So it seems SFGAm has plans for either Kidz or Camp.
It also asked "things you wouldn't miss if removed". My answer was very tasteful. TDK. Cough, cough.
Goku - Can you forward that survey at all?? I would love to do it!
Oh - leave Dark Knight right where it is! Very reliable, fun, family coaster, dark ride. Little Dipper can go though! An absolute waste of space!
NGl, wish the Theater Royal came back, those old Bug Bunny shows were great and i think they can provied a good way to get rid of overcowdeness, the just gotta be advertised more tho
Speaking of the Bugs Bunny shows, I hope that the park brings back Bugs Bunny’s Magic World or The Toonite Show for the 50th Anniversary. Wouldn’t be much, but definetly better than the nothing my opinion.
Blue_Toad_Coasters wrote: Speaking of the Bugs Bunny shows, I hope that the park brings back Bugs Bunny’s Magic World or The Toonite Show for the 50th Anniversary. Wouldn’t be much, but definetly better than the nothing my opinion.
Lowkey would be cool if they rerecorded all the voices with the Modern LT cast, definitely agree with you. Especially Magic World.
I also rethought what i said earlier, and while i'd like Theater Royal to come back, another alternate idea would be a more traditional dark ride that's New Orleans themed, basic idea but i like one of those 2 options over the crappy dark night coaster we have rn
Old Great America was better, however I hope just a bit of that charm comes back
I always get a flash pass survey after each visit and a general survey after maybe 1/3-1/2 of my visits. I have not gotten any other surveys for years, not sure why since every now and then I resubmit my email for the listing. Oh well.
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Dan The Coaster Man wrote:I would also be interested in seeing the survey.
I always get a flash pass survey after each visit and a general survey after maybe 1/3-1/2 of my visits. I have not gotten any other surveys for years, not sure why since every now and then I resubmit my email for the listing. Oh well.
My sister stopped getting these as well. She only gets the "how was your visit" and the Flash Pass Surveys.
CoastsToCoasters wrote:I legit flew to Newark last weekend & just did SFGAdv FF cause I didn't have Green Lantern. That shit better not come here. It can go to one of the smaller parks. We can get a new B&M. Again. It's not that I didn't like it, it was intense in some parts but it's old. We deserve something with much more life in it. Cause sure it'll be marketed new wherever it goes but, how much life does it have?
I am shocked we don't have the "Great American Skyscreamer" still. Really thought we'd have one by now.
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Based on the parks push to not get a Dr D clone and get a new better Dive Coaster, I don’t think a relocated ride will come to our park. This isn’t JRA or Salim anymore.
John seems to have a good grasp on what works at our park and isn’t about the cheap low capacity crap.
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I agree totally. The same week the company merged he was here at our park with other Cedar Fair managers taking a look at things. They were spotted walking the park. I think and hope they know how great this park can be with a little TLC.
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TEA released 2023 N American park attendance #s. Three Six Flags parks made top 20. SFMM, SFGAm, SFGAd in that order. Great America has a much, much shorter season. New mgmt knows they are leaving money on the table, the numbers speak for themselves. Hopefully we see significant improvements soon.
ernstwhere wrote:TEA released 2023 N American park attendance #s. Three Six Flags parks made top 20. SFMM, SFGAm, SFGAd in that order. Great America has a much, much shorter season. New mgmt knows they are leaving money on the table, the numbers speak for themselves. Hopefully we see significant improvements soon.
Very shocking results! I never expected us to return back to 3 mill that soon, and to pull ahead of Great Adventure no less! And I'd argue 2023 was a very poor year for Great America! Surely 2024 will be the return to pre covid numbers? This can only mean great things for us
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A few years ago in my town, there was a new apartment complex proposed on the site of an old banquet hall. The Karens came out of the woodwork clucking about it. Thankfully, the city council ignored all of them and granted the permits/zoning change.
