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Postby ilrider on September 1st, 2011, 10:51 am
^This isn't going in IW's spot. It's going in the old Splashwater Falls area that has sat vacant for a few years.
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Postby rct2wizard360 on September 1st, 2011, 11:14 am
From the POV, it looks like the lift will be directly inline with the midway next to Buccaneer Battle.
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And it also looks like it'll all be on one side of the train tracks.
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Hopefully this thing will pack a punch with the tight footprint.
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Postby Coastermonkey61 on September 1st, 2011, 11:24 am
I'm good with not getting Chang now.
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Postby Johnny.Ink on September 1st, 2011, 11:41 am
Looks awesome. I for one can't wait. I guess the lines for Superman just got more manageble. :mrgreen:
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Postby KyleK414 on September 1st, 2011, 11:51 am
EPIC! Looking so forward to next year now. The insane element where you don't just buzz the tower, but literally go through it will honestly scare me the first ride and probably all rides on it. Just doesn't seem physically possible haha. Also the other building is like a hanger. The theming will be nothing short of awesome for this ride as well. Way to go BIG SFGAm!!!
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Postby Ilovthevu' on September 1st, 2011, 12:31 pm
Isn't this really a Swarm clone? I don't really care, but some enthusiasts are like we don't need a clone. We need something unique... Now, what I care about is how many trains will this have, and I don't see a mid-course brake. For capacity sake, I want another 3 train coaster, and I have a feeling this is not.

Sure, I see Superman getting a little less packed, but I think Dark Knight is going to take even more a blunt of lost ridership, and of course, there is no more Iron Wolf so those riders need to go elsewhere.

It's probably only going to have 2 trains looking it up. Iron Wolf was 2900 ft. Superman is about 2800. Batman the Ride is 2700, Whizzer is 3100 (but it has a lot of helixes.), and Raging Bull is 5057 ft. Though to be fair, the lifthill counts as number of feet too. So, Batman the Ride goes up 100 ft, and Raging Bull is 208 ft, so that's 100 + more ft just for the lifthill alone. Also, a hill is going to take a lot more feet / track than a straight track would.
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Postby woohoodude11 on September 1st, 2011, 12:40 pm
^^^there have been riders for wolf these past few years?? Were all those walk-ons just hallucinations??

This ride looks amazing. A tad sad on the track length. But the overall experience should be worth the wait. Can't wait for 2012 now.
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Postby Ilovthevu' on September 1st, 2011, 12:44 pm
^Yeah, Iron Wolf had a line at times. When the park was a litlte more crowded, 10 -15 minutes at best. Sometimes, it even had those switchbacks open during Fright Fest though which meant a longer line - not terribly long line though.
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Postby Muck Finnesota on September 1st, 2011, 12:47 pm
Ilovthevu' wrote:Isn't this really a Swarm clone?


No.

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Postby CoasterBGW on September 1st, 2011, 12:47 pm
I attempted to overlay it onto a aerial photo of the park. Note, some of the things overlap becuase of the angle the aerial photograph was taken, but I think it gives a good rough estimate of the location. My main reference point was the old raceway cars service shed which I assumed was staying becuase of the new trim.

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Postby Ilovthevu' on September 1st, 2011, 12:53 pm
^That looks like it's going to crash into American Eagle. lol
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Postby rct2wizard360 on September 1st, 2011, 12:58 pm
I think if you scaled down the coaster a little bit it would make sense based on two things:
-The first drop is supposed to be right next to the turn before Demon's break run.
-The assumption that they will not remove DDD.

I'm still unsure on if it's crossing the tracks or not. That's what it looked like in the video but it is just a promo video. Demon's turn around and the train tracks would prove a bit of a problem for a lifthill.

Then again, it could very well be going around DDD and they might adjust Eagle's queue accordingly.
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Postby Mr. Oscar on September 1st, 2011, 1:06 pm
Is it just me, or does Apocalypse at SFA look a lot like IW?
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Postby woohoodude11 on September 1st, 2011, 1:08 pm
Yeah the scaling might be a hair off...but either way its looks really sharp there. Nice color transition. With the rides in thhe area...RED white and blue, red and BLACK, black. I'm hoping for some killer theming instead of random make no sense buildings. I get the whole flight gimmick with a hangar and air traffic control...but lighting and possibly tarmac will make this beyond epic.
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Postby Ilovthevu' on September 1st, 2011, 1:09 pm
^^That's because it is.
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Postby woohoodude11 on September 1st, 2011, 1:14 pm
Mr. Oscar wrote:Is it just me, or does Apocalypse at SFA look a lot like IW?

Really.
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Postby CoasterBGW on September 1st, 2011, 1:16 pm
rct2wizard360 wrote:I think if you scaled down the coaster a little bit it would make sense based on two things:
-The first drop is supposed to be right next to the turn before Demon's break run.
-The assumption that they will not remove DDD.

I'm still unsure on if it's crossing the tracks or not. That's what it looked like in the video but it is just a promo video. Demon's turn around and the train tracks would prove a bit of a problem for a lifthill.

Then again, it could very well be going around DDD and they might adjust Eagle's queue accordingly.


Here is an updated one that has been scaled down. My only issue with this new one is it does not re-use the existing building. However, the drop height is scaled approximately right (120ish ft).

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Postby SFGAm Viper on September 1st, 2011, 1:17 pm
Believe me, the guy who does these animations is accurate. This isn't some nolimits junk!
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Postby coasterfanatic on September 1st, 2011, 1:33 pm
The ride looks entirely awesome and features some invesions that we have not seen on a roller coaster at Great America before!!! The ride will have two trains as it it not long enough and doesn't have an additional break run to hold three trains! Finally, people can stay there complaining about not getting a new coaster!
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Postby acquaz10 on September 1st, 2011, 2:37 pm
SFGAm Viper wrote:Believe me, the guy who does these animations is accurate. This isn't some nolimits junk!

Yeah, Keith McVeen. His work is amazing.
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Postby Patch on September 1st, 2011, 2:44 pm
THIS RIDE IS AWESOME!!!

Totaly worth a 4 billion minute wait and the PERFECT addition to the park!
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Postby Cole on September 1st, 2011, 3:28 pm
I cannot wait for 3 hour lines for this thing.
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Postby Coastermonkey61 on September 1st, 2011, 3:32 pm
Ilovthevu' wrote:Isn't this really a Swarm clone? I don't really care, but some enthusiasts are like we don't need a clone. We need something unique... Now, what I care about is how many trains will this have, and I don't see a mid-course brake. For capacity sake, I want another 3 train coaster, and I have a feeling this is not.

Sure, I see Superman getting a little less packed, but I think Dark Knight is going to take even more a blunt of lost ridership, and of course, there is no more Iron Wolf so those riders need to go elsewhere.

It's probably only going to have 2 trains looking it up. Iron Wolf was 2900 ft. Superman is about 2800. Batman the Ride is 2700, Whizzer is 3100 (but it has a lot of helixes.), and Raging Bull is 5057 ft. Though to be fair, the lifthill counts as number of feet too. So, Batman the Ride goes up 100 ft, and Raging Bull is 208 ft, so that's 100 + more ft just for the lifthill alone. Also, a hill is going to take a lot more feet / track than a straight track would.


What?
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Postby CstrFan512 on September 1st, 2011, 3:45 pm
Glad to see that SFGAm is a leader in coaster innovation again! :D
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Postby Johnny.Ink on September 1st, 2011, 3:45 pm
acquaz10 wrote:
SFGAm Viper wrote:Believe me, the guy who does these animations is accurate. This isn't some nolimits junk!

Yeah, Keith McVeen. His work is amazing.


Does he have a website for his work? I'd be cool to check out other animations he has done.
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