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Postby Dan The Coaster Man on April 14th, 2024, 10:38 am
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How about PTC trains? And can PTC trains even run on Gravity Group track?


Would not call myself a great but thank you haha. I'm pretty new to YT.

PTC trains can most certainly run on Gravity Group track. PTC's run on ground up Gravity Group coasters like Boardwalk Bullet and Voyage, while PTC trains also run on Gravity Group retrack projects like Racer.
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Postby ernstwhere on April 14th, 2024, 10:46 am
What is up with Eagle's trains? Seems they are tearing the hell out of the structure (why racing is no longer possible?). I've heard them called Frankenstein trains, a mish-mash of makers/parts.
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Postby Goku1910 on April 14th, 2024, 10:58 am
They're really no different from other 3 row PTC's as far as I know.

Eagle cycles their trains each year,there are three total for each side and you'll notice them change every season. Just part of the maintenance schedule.

As for what's tearing it apart, most of it comes from age, the weight of the trains combined, and the way wooden coasters are designed. Turns out we learned a lot since the 80's.

From what I've heard from an internal source, the Barrel is the big reason why it doesn't race anymore. The force of both trains feeding each other ended up putting so much strain on the structure it caused a cable to snap. Lack of staffing is just an easy excuse seeing as you need double to run both sides.

I can't even begin to understand what it would take to get it racing again because I don't think the track is the biggest issue, it's the support structure beneath it.
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Postby Dan The Coaster Man on April 14th, 2024, 12:20 pm
Goku1910 wrote:I can't even begin to understand what it would take to get it racing again because I don't think the track is the biggest issue, it's the support structure beneath it.


Agreed. Most certainly the structure.
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Postby FParker185 on April 14th, 2024, 8:09 pm
When the park switched from buzz bars to individual lapbars it was done in house, which makes the park itself the manufacturer of the train, as far as I know PTC will not support them in any way. Other than that the chassis should still be pretty close to PTC spec.

If I had to guess the structure is fine too, I'd bet money the lack of racing comes down to $$$ and Staffing.
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Postby Blue_Toad_Coasters on April 15th, 2024, 1:20 am
Goku1910 wrote:I can't even begin to understand what it would take to get it racing again because I don't think the track is the biggest issue, it's the support structure beneath it.


Very, VERY unlikely situation here, but what if the park dumped a whole butt-load of money into American Eagle to replace the support structure for the barrel, repaint most of the ride, put on new Gravity Group track, new PTC trains, rerouted the queue, and brought back racing. However, the park would market that as their new coaster instead of something like a Dive or Raptor.
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Postby Coaster Justin on April 15th, 2024, 9:34 am
Blue_Toad_Coasters wrote:
Goku1910 wrote:I can't even begin to understand what it would take to get it racing again because I don't think the track is the biggest issue, it's the support structure beneath it.


Very, VERY unlikely situation here, but what if the park dumped a whole butt-load of money into American Eagle to replace the support structure for the barrel, repaint most of the ride, put on new Gravity Group track, new PTC trains, rerouted the queue, and brought back racing. However, the park would market that as their new coaster instead of something like a Dive or Raptor.



ONLY if they increase the banking of both helix's, And maybe having a steeper drop and a tunnel would be enough to market it as a new addition?-- Certainly more than DC Universe
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Postby BuckyMcMacho on May 3rd, 2024, 9:43 pm
DC Universe was a disgrace to Marriott, but having Black Manta makes me conflicted about hating it.
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Postby Blue_Toad_Coasters on May 5th, 2024, 12:24 am
BuckyMcMacho wrote:DC Universe was a disgrace to Marriott, but having Black Manta makes me conflicted about hating it.


1. Where is Black Manta in the land? The sign? The queue for Aquaman?
2. I wonder if people would have been more okay with DC coming in if they named the land "DC HARBOR" instead of Universe. Kind of like a homage to Marriott. At least we still have those posters for the lands behind the Carousel.
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Postby BuckyMcMacho on May 8th, 2024, 3:42 pm
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BuckyMcMacho wrote:DC Universe was a disgrace to Marriott, but having Black Manta makes me conflicted about hating it.


1. Where is Black Manta in the land? The sign? The queue for Aquaman?
2. I wonder if people would have been more okay with DC coming in if they named the land "DC HARBOR" instead of Universe. Kind of like a homage to Marriott. At least we still have those posters for the lands behind the Carousel.

DC Super Villains Swing, and I also came up with the idea for DC Harbour 2 years before this retheme happened.
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Postby Blue_Toad_Coasters on May 9th, 2024, 1:33 am
BuckyMcMacho wrote:DC Super Villains Swing, and I also came up with the idea for DC Harbour 2 years before this retheme happened.


You literally predicted the future, but then again, once Joker opened, I suppose that kind of hinted towards DC Universe. Great job though!
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