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Postby Ilovthevu' on February 9th, 2009, 4:19 pm
^You run less cars, and save on the gas. For every 1 person in a car, you put 2 people in the car.
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Postby SixFlagsGuy76 on February 9th, 2009, 4:58 pm
But it seems like they run the same amount of cars as always so I don't get why they are trying to save money. To me it seems like they are just increasing capacity.
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Postby Demon_07 on February 9th, 2009, 5:02 pm
For lack of a better word, carpooling. :lol: Every time I go, I see cars lined up against the side with only about 5 being used. They should just sell a few off instead of leaving them to collect dust.
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Postby SixFlagsGuy76 on February 9th, 2009, 5:29 pm
You mean they only use 5 cars now? That's crazy. They must have like 40-50 cars sitting on the side when there are that little amount of cars running. Everytime I was there, they were running a bunch of cars so I guess things changed?
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Postby DejaVu2001 on February 9th, 2009, 5:33 pm
^ I've never heard of them only running 5 cars on Raceway. From what I understand, 15-20 is the normal amount.
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Postby Demon_07 on February 9th, 2009, 5:49 pm
I've seen it happen but yes, there are usually about 10-15.
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Postby SixFlagsGuy76 on February 9th, 2009, 6:33 pm
Oh! I found out they normally run 20! And that they NEVER run less than 15! My grandma goes a lot and rides Raceway a lot. So she knows this from experience!
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Postby Demon_07 on February 9th, 2009, 7:20 pm
That simply isn't true. Opening day last year, I could've sowrn there were less than 10.
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Postby onyxhotel08 on February 9th, 2009, 8:28 pm
Onto more serious matters, it looks like Six Flags might be one of the 15 companies not to survive in 09 and beyond...http://finance.yahoo.com/news/15-Compan ... 79875.html

It's really here y'all...Where is Cedar Fair though???!!!
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Postby Demon_07 on February 9th, 2009, 8:31 pm
Savor every day you spend there. That's all I'm gonna say.
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Postby onyxhotel08 on February 9th, 2009, 8:47 pm
Demon_07 wrote:Savor every day you spend there. That's all I'm gonna say.


Everyone get your friends, family, doctor, lawyer, Gardner, paper boy, milkman, teacher, etc. to go to the park at least one once or twice this summer. Tell them of the cheaper entry prices. Tell them it is better than going overseas or even traveling hours one end to Wisconsin Dells. Help market the park. Bring it up in your daily conversations with people. Have a birthday coming up? Head over to the park! Or buy yourself a season pass saving tons and take public transportation, Pace buses or carpool to the park this season. Remember, these hard times will not last forever. There is nothing wrong with going to Six Flags when times are tough. Cheaper than Disneyland or a trip to Vegas.

Side note: Did anyone see the current Key Lime Cove ads where they mention Six Flags being the official indoor water park of Six Flags Great America or something to that effect?
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Postby FParker185 on February 9th, 2009, 9:43 pm
Cedar Fair while straddled with debt does turn a profit and therefor isn't on the list.

As for SFGAm it's going nowhere fast, I wouldn't treat the park any different from any other year. Just cause Six Flags goes under doesn't mean all the parks will close forever. If Six Flags misses a payment they would more than likely go into Chapter 11, which would allow operations to continue while the company restructures itself into a profitable operation, probably by selling a slew of parks that don't perform as they should, and even if Six Flags is liquidated by creditors, SFGAm would be bought up by another company for sure. A Six Flags auction would be nothing like what HRP is going though, it wouldn't be physically possible to auction off all of Six Flags assets piecemeal. There aren't enough parks out there in the world to buy all the rides and other assets and the creditors know that.
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Postby Demon_07 on February 9th, 2009, 11:18 pm
I wonder what the park would be renamed... Chicago's Great America?
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Postby FParker185 on February 10th, 2009, 12:59 am
Whoever buys the most parks would probably take on the Six Flags name. I'd be surprised if SFGAm wasn't one of them. That is assuming that the less likely Chapter 7 is declared. More than likely it will be Chapter 11 and Six Flags would reorganize and retain SFGAm keeping the name the same.

I think if Chap 7 happened, and if say Cedar Fair bought SFGAm (as much as Cedar Fair wants SFGAm I doubt they would have the finances to buy the park in any case), but if that happened I would think they would change the name to simply Great America. Or they could do what SF did with Fiesta Texas until it's name was sorta unofficially changed a few years back and they could call it, Great America: A Cedar Fair Theme Park. :)
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Postby onyxhotel08 on February 10th, 2009, 1:24 am
I like Chicago land's Great America or Midwest's Great America...but it will NOT happen as SFGAm is too valuable for them as is Great Adventure and the rest of the big boys. Cedar Fair will most likely build another Top Thrill Dragster before buying a park like ours. We don't need them. We don't want them to bring in the thrills and forget everything else.
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Postby Demon_07 on February 10th, 2009, 5:00 pm
^ I agree.
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Postby FParker185 on February 10th, 2009, 7:00 pm
You all gotta make up your mind, you want big thrills or not?

Shapiro sucks cause he doesn't build big thrilling rides

Cedar Sucks cause they would build big thrilling rides.
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Postby onyxhotel08 on February 10th, 2009, 8:06 pm
They all suck because they can't even out thrills/good quality park to drive people in and then WE pay for it just as much as the park chain. Sure, they are starting to think better but it will take more than Thomas Town in 2010 or a 450 foot coaster to really turn things around. They need to sell sell sell what is under performing. That way, you don't punish the "better" parks and start paying back more of your debt while not being forced to close the money making parks and SLOWLY get back to making headline worthy rides...and anything that doesn't sit in a box or has you splash people.
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Postby demonbulleagle on February 10th, 2009, 9:39 pm
I actually agree with your "SELL SELL SELL" idea. a smaller company with only profitable parks would do much better. With that i don't think the Six Flags Dubailand will be staying very long.
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Postby monsterfan99 on February 11th, 2009, 4:15 am
demonbulleagle wrote:I actually agree with your "SELL SELL SELL" idea. a smaller company with only profitable parks would do much better. With that i don't think the Six Flags Dubailand will be staying very long.

Dubailand, if it actually happens, is all profit. They will be paid for the name and to manage the park, not own it.

Problem with selling is who's going to buy a park that is already under performing? The only one I can think of is KK because the original owner wants the park back. America's land is way too valuable (aka cost too much) to be bought right now. All of the other parks, excluding the CA and TX ones as I'm not sure on them, did very well last year.

Who knows, maybe the group that is trying to buy Hard Rock park will want a SF park as well.
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Postby Ilovthevu' on February 11th, 2009, 12:00 pm
The parks build too many roller coasters that put them further into debt. Instead of every 3 or 4 years (People are mad over here because they say we didn't a major coaster since Superman which was 2003. However, we got Ragin Cajun in 2004, and now the Dark Knight in 2008.), people want a huge roller coaster more often.

That is a stupid business plan. Spending millions on the Spy Girl stunt show though is also a stupid plan by shutting it down after it's first year. Having Wiggle's rides that are about the same rides all over the park was another stupid thing. They just put Wiggles stuff on the rides.

You have a Sky Trek tower ride in Wiggle's area, you have an antique car ride in Wiggles area (They are electric, but still.), you have a play thing like in Wiggles and Looney Tunes, you have tea cups like Chubasco, you have planes like in Looney Tunes area (They have 3 plane rides now.), and probably the only really new thing is that Zamperla Jumpin Star ride.

Has Six Flags Great America, and many other parks every thought of Dark Ride, Dark Ride, Dark Ride!!? Yes, there are some dark rides, but there aren't that many? (How about Batman, Alice in Wonderland -characters aren't owned by Disney, Wizard of Oz, Superman, Wonder Woman, Justice League, Scooby-Doo and Warner Brothers characters-Yes, there are some, but not many., Tom and Jerry, The Jestons, Flinstones, or Thomas the Train?)

Some of these parks have quite old flats like ours, and some of these parks have barely any flats. Again, and again I say work on the flats sometimes, and don't get bad ones.

Six Flags Over Texas that one year added 10 flat rides: They have a Triple Play which is old, but it's a good ride. It's still old though. They got a Looping Starship which is an okay ride in my opinion, and old. It could get boring fast to people. They added like a Sky Trek Tower ride (basically our Wiggle's ride) which is fine I guess. I added a Huss Breakdance which is just boring as anything.

They added planes that go up and down, and I don't know if they already have planes that go up and down in the kids section. They added the boots ride that I like (These are boots go go up and down during the whole ride - different than a plane ride though.). They added a Scrambler which is old, and I think the Trabant is another addition is old, and boring. Even though they added flats, they aren't great at all.
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