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Postby RollingCoasting on August 12th, 2016, 1:14 pm
I think the reason any relocated rides ever came to our park was solely because of the Ride Rotation Program, which I think is over. Not that I wouldn't want any relocated rides, I'd love to receive a relocated coaster or ride.

CoasterRiderSC wrote:Wow! RollingCoasting, That Windrush you created looks awesome!!
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He used RCT3 and, nice job RC. I think a green track with black supports would look better, but thats my opinion. Great job


Thanks! I just wanted to see if a Mega-lite would fit in TDK's spot, which it would if done correctly.

About TDK, it's not that I don't like the ride, I'm a fan on Wild Mouses, it's just that many enthusiasts on this site would choose it to remove, and it has a nice size space for a Mega-lite.
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Postby CoasterRiderSC on August 12th, 2016, 1:34 pm
JaminOut wrote:
B&MGuy35 wrote:
CoasterRiderSC wrote:For the new ride, I'm gonna go out a limb here and say we're gonna get a Mr. Freeze clone! It would tie in the with blue Batman logo/image that someone said they saw.

Or, we're getting some refurb flat rides from another SF park.


Again....that Blue Batman Logo is the company wide announcement artwork and has nothing to do with our park specifically.

I'm still on a flat ride package!


Great America isn't a park that gets hand-me-downs. Plus, are there any flats (of no resemblance of anything we have) at other parks that have closed down? No.


Do you consider Little Dipper a "hand-me-down" ? If I could remove ONE ride that thing would be the first to go! Loading time is way too long (for one thing, why don't they put a measuring stick much closer to the train to speed up measuring kids who might not be 36'. ) , and that ride isn't worth the wait. I try to discourage my daughter from going on it.

The 2nd ride I'd remove is Eagle. That ride is sitting on way too much valuable real estate.
The 3rd ride I'd remove is Hometown.

So, since we're not getting any flats, I still vote for the Mr. Freeze clone!! I saw that ride in SFOT but couldn't ride it because I had nobody to watch my 6yo girl. I was very fascinated by it.
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Postby ChicagoCoasterGuy on August 12th, 2016, 1:38 pm
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JaminOut wrote:
B&MGuy35 wrote:[quote="CoasterRiderSC"]
For the new ride, I'm gonna go out a limb here and say we're gonna get a Mr. Freeze clone! It would tie in the with blue Batman logo/image that someone said they saw.

Or, we're getting some refurb flat rides from another SF park.


Again....that Blue Batman Logo is the company wide announcement artwork and has nothing to do with our park specifically.

I'm still on a flat ride package!


Great America isn't a park that gets hand-me-downs. Plus, are there any flats (of no resemblance of anything we have) at other parks that have closed down? No.


Do you consider Little Dipper a "hand-me-down" ? If I could remove ONE ride that thing would be the first to go! Loading time is way too long (for one thing, why don't they put a measuring stick much closer to the train to speed up measuring kids who might not be 36'. ) , and that ride isn't worth the wait. I try to discourage my daughter from going on that ride because it's not worth the wait. [/quote]

I think one of the best things Six Flags ever did was save the Little Dipper and keep it in the Chicago area. This is a part of theme park history in Chicago and I'm glad to see it live on at Six Flags!


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Postby CoasterRiderSC on August 12th, 2016, 1:40 pm
I can kind of see your point about "saving the past" but then what about all those great rides from Riverview park such as the Bobs? I've heard (from parents) that it was great ride.

Does anyone on here remember Old Chicago?? My first looping coaster was the Chicago Loop.
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Postby jmanporty7 on August 12th, 2016, 1:42 pm
I know this will never happen, but I really wish that Six Flags rethemed Yukon Territory into something else, nothing in that area has nothing to do with the Yukon or national parks in general except for Logger's Run and the MooseBurger Lodge. And plus the Yukon is in Canada, not the US!


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Postby anewman35 on August 12th, 2016, 2:04 pm
Do people really think its possible we'd get a clone of an 18-year-old ride? That seems crazy, especially since it's not like they've been building a lot of them in the meantime.
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Postby stergmi on August 12th, 2016, 2:07 pm
CoasterRiderSC wrote:I can kind of see your point about "saving the past" but then what about all those great rides from Riverview park such as the Bobs? I've heard (from parents) that it was great ride.

Does anyone on here remember Old Chicago?? My first looping coaster was the Chicago Loop.


Riverview shut down in 67. I imagine if the park was open another 10-15 years someone would have bought the Bobs
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Postby Guy_With_A_Stick on August 12th, 2016, 2:11 pm
JaminOut wrote:
B&MGuy35 wrote:
CoasterRiderSC wrote:Again....that Blue Batman Logo is the company wide announcement artwork and has nothing to do with our park specifically.

I'm still on a flat ride package!


Great America isn't a park that gets hand-me-downs. Plus, are there any flats (of no resemblance of anything we have) at other parks that have closed down? No.


Do you consider Little Dipper a "hand-me-down" ? If I could remove ONE ride that thing would be the first to go! Loading time is way too long (for one thing, why don't they put a measuring stick much closer to the train to speed up measuring kids who might not be 36'. ) , and that ride isn't worth the wait. I try to discourage my daughter from going on it.

The 2nd ride I'd remove is Eagle. That ride is sitting on way too much valuable real estate.
The 3rd ride I'd remove is Hometown.

So, since we're not getting any flats, I still vote for the Mr. Freeze clone!! I saw that ride in SFOT but couldn't ride it because I had nobody to watch my 6yo girl. I was very fascinated by it.


Litte Dipper is a classic piece of Chicagoland History. Also, do you expect a kiddie ride to be 'worth it'? Of course not. I don't necessarily like the ride- no airtime or forces, but that's not what it was meant to do. It was designed for kids who can't yet ride the bigger rides a chance to ride a roller coaster. If you don't want to ride it, fine. And would you really remove the classic roller coaster that everyone can ride instead of the loud, annoying, and out of place Go Karts not even 20 feet away?

For Eagle, what do you mean Real Estate? Are you building houses there? Even if you were going to build a coaster there, you can't utilize the entire space. The helix is waay too close to I-94. And if you were going to lead a path to the space Eagle occupies, you can't unless you remove a kids area, or go over/under a service road.

Assuming you mean Hometown Fun Machine, I can agree with you to some extent, but there isn't much you can replace it with. I'd remove it if it means Pictorium is going as well.

What makes you think we have no chance at getting any flats? They're still a very viable option, much better than the Mr. Freeze option. Speaking of Mr. Freeze, Premier Rides manufactured that 20 years ago. There's no way they're going to dig up old, outdated blueprints for your own wish. Also, where's the space to put it? There is no way in hell it'll fit in ERC, JWR, and RC's spot. No way.

Sorry if I sounded mean, but I'd try to put a little thought into your predictions/wishes. If you want to be as realistic as possible, try to think of both the GP and the park as a whole.
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Postby stergmi on August 12th, 2016, 2:16 pm
The only coasters that I still see cloned after 20 years are Coney Island Cyclone and Batman: The Ride.

We're more likely to get a Sky Rocket II from Premier than a Launched Shuttle.
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Postby CoasterRiderSC on August 12th, 2016, 2:31 pm
Litte Dipper is a classic piece of Chicagoland History. Also, do you expect a kiddie ride to be 'worth it'? Of course not. I don't necessarily like the ride- no airtime or forces, but that's not what it was meant to do. It was designed for kids who can't yet ride the bigger rides a chance to ride a roller coaster. If you don't want to ride it, fine. And would you really remove the classic roller coaster that everyone can ride instead of the loud, annoying, and out of place Go Karts not even 20 feet away?

For Eagle, what do you mean Real Estate? Are you building houses there? Even if you were going to build a coaster there, you can't utilize the entire space. The helix is waay too close to I-94. And if you were going to lead a path to the space Eagle occupies, you can't unless you remove a kids area, or go over/under a service road.

Assuming you mean Hometown Fun Machine, I can agree with you to some extent, but there isn't much you can replace it with. I'd remove it if it means Pictorium is going as well.

What makes you think we have no chance at getting any flats? They're still a very viable option, much better than the Mr. Freeze option. Speaking of Mr. Freeze, Premier Rides manufactured that 20 years ago. There's no way they're going to dig up old, outdated blueprints for your own wish. Also, where's the space to put it? There is no way in hell it'll fit in ERC, JWR, and RC's spot. No way.

Sorry if I sounded mean, but I'd try to put a little thought into your predictions/wishes. If you want to be as realistic as possible, try to think of both the GP and the park as a whole.[/quote]


Sorry if I touched a nerve by taking out LD (and Eagle)! LD had its place in Chicago history . I rode it at Kiddieland when I was a kid, probably was my first coaster (like 35+years ago). But I'm sorry Spacely is a way better ride! And we also have Dark Knight which about 90% of the people on here seem to want to send to the scrap heap (not sure why), and of course the classic Whizzer (which is still a fun ride for all ages). I was saying if SFGam was lacking space (or "real estate") then Eagle can go.

I mean, everyone is saying to trash the flumes, but what's going to replace them?? Yes, they are old and the theming is non-existent, but they are still fun! I don't personally go to HH because I"m a "coasters first" kind of guy. So if the flumes came down, we'd lose 1/2 of our water rides.

As for flat rides, I agree with JaminOut : what can they bring here that we dont' already have some variation of? I would be fine with a Mega Lite ride. Those look cool. As for RMC T-rex, I'm not sold on that one yet. Would need to see a real one in action first. As for the Mr. Freeze clone, it was just an idea! Like the one guy one page 1 of this forum said - we'll get a 8 loop, floorless coaster where the flumes are.
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Postby JaminOut on August 12th, 2016, 2:39 pm
CoasterRiderSC wrote:
JaminOut wrote:
B&MGuy35 wrote:[quote="CoasterRiderSC"]
For the new ride, I'm gonna go out a limb here and say we're gonna get a Mr. Freeze clone! It would tie in the with blue Batman logo/image that someone said they saw.

Or, we're getting some refurb flat rides from another SF park.


Again....that Blue Batman Logo is the company wide announcement artwork and has nothing to do with our park specifically.

I'm still on a flat ride package!


Great America isn't a park that gets hand-me-downs. Plus, are there any flats (of no resemblance of anything we have) at other parks that have closed down? No.


Do you consider Little Dipper a "hand-me-down" ? If I could remove ONE ride that thing would be the first to go! Loading time is way too long (for one thing, why don't they put a measuring stick much closer to the train to speed up measuring kids who might not be 36'. ) , and that ride isn't worth the wait. I try to discourage my daughter from going on it.

The 2nd ride I'd remove is Eagle. That ride is sitting on way too much valuable real estate.
The 3rd ride I'd remove is Hometown.

So, since we're not getting any flats, I still vote for the Mr. Freeze clone!! I saw that ride in SFOT but couldn't ride it because I had nobody to watch my 6yo girl. I was very fascinated by it.[/quote]

Little Dipper isn't a relocation. All of the wood is new, they refurbished the trains. I'd consider it a clone because it uses the same blueprints. Also, it's a great coaster for little ones. Sure, capacity isn't great, but neither is V2's Superman, or The Dark Knight (depending on who you ask).

And you seem to discourage your children for riding a lot of rides for reasons that don't necessarily justify your case. Physics prevents you from being ejected out of the boats of Loggers Run and Yankee Clipper. If you're worried about them falling out, they are sitting on your lap. Just put your arms around them. Not riding a coaster you're daughter wants to ride because it has a 30 minute line? Don't take your daughter if it's such an issue. I'm assuming you have a season pass, so take trips with her and without her.

Eagle is a classic coaster with will not be removed in the near future. It's large and depending on the day, it pulls 30 minute lines (plus it's a really high capacity ride). If you're worried about "valuable estate", look at Superman and Dark Knight. You could build a nice B&M outback around that area, the service road, and Roaring Rapids. Anything is "valuable estate" if you clear enough space. Hometown Fun Machine has yet to yield expensive maintenance costs, so there is not problem with it.

A Mr. Freeze clone is highly unrealistic, I can't remember the last time one was built. If anything we'd probably get a Full Throttle-like layout for a launched coaster. Six Flags wouldn't put two incomplete circuit coasters in one park.

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Also, it looked like users have misquoted posts making it look like I said them, be aware the majority of the quotes in the last 5 or so posts were not things I said. (That or Tapatalk is acting funky).
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Postby stergmi on August 12th, 2016, 2:44 pm
Six Flags HAS put in 2 shuttle coasters in one park including G-Am
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Postby JaminOut on August 12th, 2016, 2:56 pm
stergmi wrote:Six Flags HAS put in 2 shuttle coasters in one park including G-Am


Launched. Not overall.


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Postby CoasterRiderSC on August 12th, 2016, 2:59 pm
Thanks everyone for your input into my "park revisions" :) I mean that sincerely. You all bring up good points.
Let's just agree that Superman is not going anywhere nor Whizzer :)

I will hold that at some point Eagle must be rebuilt, retracked or replaced. Hey, look at Mean Streak for exampl. It's 10 years younger than Eagle.

As for Little Dipper, rcdb.com lists it as a relocation
http://rcdb.com/8985.htm

Also to clarify one thing, I am NOT against the flume rides for my kids. I have a 6yo and almost 2yo. I've taken my 6yo on the flumes a few times. I am NOT worried about her getting ejected from either of those rides. I also took her on Texas SKyScreamer. (way more risk and potential death from falling out of that ride )
But JaminOut, you do make a good point: if she wants to go on the LD and it's only 30 minutes, I need to suck it up and do that ride. Point well taken. She also likes to do things like go on Whizzer, then Dark Knight, then Demon (very inefficient path to travel!), and I sometimes let her have her way !

I'm new to this forum and don't want to stir up a hornet's nest :)

I won't make any more predictions!
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Postby JaminOut on August 12th, 2016, 3:04 pm
CoasterRiderSC wrote:Thanks everyone for your input into my "park revisions" :) I mean that sincerely. You all bring up good points.
Let's just agree that Superman is not going anywhere nor Whizzer :)

I will hold that at some point Eagle must be rebuilt, retracked or replaced. Hey, look at Mean Streak for exampl. It's 10 years younger than Eagle.

As for Little Dipper, rcdb.com lists it as a relocation
http://rcdb.com/8985.htm

Also to clarify one thing, I am NOT against the flume rides for my kids. I have a 6yo and almost 2yo. I've taken my 6yo on the flumes a few times. I am NOT worried about her getting ejected from either of those rides. I also took her on Texas SKyScreamer. (way more risk and potential death from falling out of that ride )
But JaminOut, you do make a good point: if she wants to go on the LD and it's only 30 minutes, I need to suck it up and do that ride. Point well taken. She also likes to do things like go on Whizzer, then Dark Knight, then Demon (very inefficient path to travel!), and I sometimes let her have her way !

I'm new to this forum and don't want to stir up a hornet's nest :)

I won't make any more predictions!


Forgive me concerning the flumes, another "newer" user had posted about them in another thread. It's hard to keep all these new additions to SFGAmWorld straight!


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Postby CoasterRiderSC on August 12th, 2016, 3:10 pm
No problem. I might have also misquoted you on one or two points. I just hope we get something new and not a refurbed area or the bringing back of 3 kids rides from 1976 !

By the way, another great flat ride is Chubasco! I love that ride and so does my 6yo. I'm so thrilled she LOVES rides and coasters. I'm developing her into a 2nd gen coaster rider :)

We're going on 8/15 and I'm trying to get her to try Giant Drop but she's a little hesitant. I know for sure she wont' do Goliath. She's just over 48 inches with the "right shoes".
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Postby MollysMomma on August 12th, 2016, 3:26 pm
CoasterRiderSC wrote:No problem. I might have also misquoted you on one or two points. I just hope we get something new and not a refurbed area or the bringing back of 3 kids rides from 1976 !

By the way, another great flat ride is Chubasco! I love that ride and so does my 6yo. I'm so thrilled she LOVES rides and coasters. I'm developing her into a 2nd gen coaster rider :)

We're going on 8/15 and I'm trying to get her to try Giant Drop but she's a little hesitant. I know for sure she wont' do Goliath. She's just over 48 inches with the "right shoes".


You're so lucky! lol My 9 year old hit 54 inches last summer, but unfortunately she's afraid of heights, so I can't get her on the coasters. I've been taking her to the park since she was 18 months old. She loves Spacely's and LD, and she has ridden Whizzer in the past, but won't do it now. :( I don't want to force her as I don't want to turn her off forever. Since she won't ride, I make her wait in line with me for the coasters I choose to ride and she just crosses the train and waits at the exit.

She loves most of the spinning flats and Kidzopolis. Last visit, I convinced her to try Revolution. She liked it until it changed direction and spun faster. She says she'll try either TDK or Viper next, but we'll see.
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Postby stergmi on August 12th, 2016, 11:12 pm
CoasterRiderSC wrote:Thanks everyone for your input into my "park revisions" :) I mean that sincerely. You all bring up good points.
Let's just agree that Superman is not going anywhere nor Whizzer :)

I will hold that at some point Eagle must be rebuilt, retracked or replaced. Hey, look at Mean Streak for exampl. It's 10 years younger than Eagle.

As for Little Dipper, rcdb.com lists it as a relocation
http://rcdb.com/8985.htm

Also to clarify one thing, I am NOT against the flume rides for my kids. I have a 6yo and almost 2yo. I've taken my 6yo on the flumes a few times. I am NOT worried about her getting ejected from either of those rides. I also took her on Texas SKyScreamer. (way more risk and potential death from falling out of that ride )
But JaminOut, you do make a good point: if she wants to go on the LD and it's only 30 minutes, I need to suck it up and do that ride. Point well taken. She also likes to do things like go on Whizzer, then Dark Knight, then Demon (very inefficient path to travel!), and I sometimes let her have her way !

I'm new to this forum and don't want to stir up a hornet's nest :)

I won't make any more predictions!


Mean Streak isn't a good comparison though. That ride was poorly designed or built. If MS is a 10 on the roughness scale Eagle is a 5 or 6. I mean all woods will need maintenance and Eagle is maintained (thus all the wood pallets brought in at the end of season).

Yeah... I go SJW for Eagle. Sorry, not sorry
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Postby Guy_With_A_Stick on August 13th, 2016, 2:13 am
And so SFOT is getting Bumper Cars for 2017...

https://ap.arlingtontx.gov/web/permit/publicsearch-issued-permit?t_detail=1&t_selected_folderrsn=1620411&t_selected_propertyrsn=282209

Sounds like a pretty uninteresting year so far. Hopefully there's some interesting stuff up ahead.

Edit: Also, is anyone following the park on Snapchat? Their last Tweet talked about "All the behind the scenes info" if you followed them on Snapchat. Could the Teasers possibly be on Snapchat?

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Postby maxwellt on August 13th, 2016, 7:23 am
I hope that the teasers arent on snapchat this year. I dont got one, and I have no interest getting one
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Postby anewman35 on August 13th, 2016, 8:58 am
With the way they push Snapchat now, I can't imagine they won't post some things on Snapchat (in fact, I'm pretty sure they did last year too - I know there was Instagram stuff, can't say for sure about Snapchat). If anybody is that against getting one, I'm sure everything will be elsewhere or at least mentioned here, but I can't actually understand why somebody would be thst against getting Snapchat - it's easy and there's no obligation thst you actually use it for anything else...
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Postby American Eagle 1981 on August 13th, 2016, 9:13 am
I was in the park yesterday and started to speculate for their 2017 attraction. Orbit definitely looks lifeless, R.I.P. East River Crawler is closed for the season it appears. Jesters Wild Ride looks closed for good as well. So I'm thinking East River Crawler will be moved to Orbits spot, Orbit and Jester will be gone for good. That leaves a good amount of land in between Yankee Harbor and Mardi Gras considering Rajun Cajuns empty space. I doubt enough space for a real coaster but probably for an S&S 4D Freespin. I don't think Great America is going to want a crappy super loop. So I'm thinking either a Freespin or a updated flats package.
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Postby maxwellt on August 13th, 2016, 9:13 am
I'm not against it, I just don't find a need for one

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Postby anewman35 on August 13th, 2016, 9:17 am
maxwellt wrote:I'm not against it, I just don't find a need for one

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Well, you'd have a need for one if they start posting teasers there...
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Postby Mean Streaker on August 13th, 2016, 11:31 am
anewman35 wrote:With the way they push Snapchat now, I can't imagine they won't post some things on Snapchat (in fact, I'm pretty sure they did last year too - I know there was Instagram stuff, can't say for sure about Snapchat). If anybody is that against getting one, I'm sure everything will be elsewhere or at least mentioned here, but I can't actually understand why somebody would be thst against getting Snapchat - it's easy and there's no obligation thst you actually use it for anything else...


What is the park's Snapchat name? I'll add them.
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