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Dark Knight coaster confirmed for SFGAm in 2008
Believe it or no Cryptkeeper, Ragin Cajun is a portable mouse as well... It can easily be disassembled/reassembled.
Licensed Mechanical Engineer
Well there go my hopes for a huge dive coaster like the Griffon... As for this new ride, it does sound like a mouse, but based on the description, with the theming and special effects, could it actually be more like the Mummy at Universal Studios? (I hope) By the way, I love plain ol' wild mouses- no spinning needed or wanted. I wish they would replace Cajun with a mouse like the Roadrunner at Kentucky Kingdom- now that's a great mouse! BTW, I love when new attractions are added without removing the old ones!
Yes, I know that those coasters can be assembled in a day or two. They're often at the Indiana state fair, in fact, and I've seen them at other fairs around the US. However, since you brought it up...I remember RC taking ..what? A month or more for that ride to be assembled and opened? (I wasn't going to bring it up, but since you did  ) Hopefully, history won't repeat itself. <grin>
Okay Ragin Cajuns capacity is terrible because:
1: Zamperla has a tight weight requirement on the cars, only 3 riders taller than 54" are allowed on each car. 2: It never runs more than 5 cars because the way the ride control system is set up. It can run 6 or possibly 7 successfully, but it needs really good people up there or the rides safety system will set up and cars will stop out on the ride course. The brake run can hold 1 car, so if a car stacks the car behind it stacks in brake 7 then the car behind that stacks in brake 5. Now if that happens the ride is designed to continue operating like normal when the blocks clear however sometimes the car moves so slow it doesnt clear a prox switch in time by the car behind it does and the ride will crap out. 3: SF corporate ride electronics requires an extra safety system to check the harnesses before sending the cars, so if a car is unbalanced the operator must shake the car until the contacts line up with the bus bar for the car to move. Cajun has been running smoother this year than any other year, they seem to have it down in terms of loading without setting up the PLC now however SF is stubborn to add more cars to operation because of that possibility, added with Zamperla's stupid weight requirement (which started being enforced 2 years after the ride was built), makes Cajun a capacity nightmare and the loading process a disaster. And Cajun is a portable model, hence the 2x4's the ride sits on. Most likely a case of SF trying to save some dough. Now Macks are much better engineered than the Reverchon/Zamperla mice and should not have any of the above problems, so I would expect the capacity to be much better. And as far as theming, id expect some pretty awesome theming to park standards, but as far as Disney-esque theming I think your getting ahead of yourself. Id expect the queue to be pretty cool, maybe something like BTR or maybe a bit less profile, then the actual ride to be dark with maybe some cutouts or effects here and there. Thats what i'd expect, I dont actually know exactly how this is gonna work out. As far as actual ride intensity, the Mack mouse ive been on (Wild Maus/Cheetah Chase) the ride is definitley nowhere near the intensity of Cajun and quite tame, but they are made to be family coasters and SF will do a great job with these rides. I agree 100% with Bob O, the most important thing about this ride is air conditioning. There needs to be a big themed queue in which the AC actually works.
WHY? All this talk about "Mice?" BDK will most likely NOT be a "MOUSE!" RC IS a Mouse!!! Why would SF and SFGAm put another indoors or not alomost next to it? I think that it's going to be a one of a kind, like BTR was!!!
Push down, then pull up. Exit to your left/right. And, enjoy the rest of your day at Six Flags! Your friendly enthusiast Kyle.
^If the theming is modern and really cool, it's not going to matter that the park already has a mouse coaster. It is essentially going to be a dark ride, something that SFGAm doesn't have so in my opinion is a unique experience for this park.
The days of parks adding unique and record breaking coasters is over for the time being. Even CP is starting to realize this. After Maverick, I think they are done with coaster adding for awhile. I finally retired the Sarah Palin signature because she is now 100% irrelevant.
^Yea, thats good seeing as RC is only Medium.
Will it be something like The Exterminator at kennywood?
And if it is anything like Cheetah Chase, it will hurt.... http://themeparkcritic.com/scripts/profile/ViewProfile.asp?ViewID=2909
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You really need to get over yourself kid 
Jesus Christ, we finally get a new coaster and people arent happy with it. What the hell is the matter with you people. YES, i said we have the same ride, but I still mentioned theres alot of potential with it. And it looks to be awesome 
thats a soinning wild mouse like cajun. Mack mouses are completely differnt and actualy have bunny hills, wide turns, ect. They are really fun and have a good drop. Riding it in the dark will be even more fun.
Of course it will! There is no good reason to remove BTR from our park! It's an awesome ride. I would cry if they removed it, that was my first big coaster, and I did it before any other coaster in the park besides Spacelys. It got me where I am now. The new coaster will more than likely be between the theatre and Superman. Who cares if it's another Batman themed coaster? And it's most likely not going to have the exact same layout as Cajun. That would be a little dumb. Remember, it says 6 180 degree hairpin turns... I believe Cajun has a couple more than that. I think it will be very cool. I was hoping for something more along the lines of a floorless or diver, but I have to wait a bit longer for that if ever. As for them renaming BDK at SFNE, that's kind of annoying. People would get confused, and the name is perfect for that coaster... Why not just name the new one something else? Meh, whatever.
In regards to the weight requirement, does this apply to the spinning mice made by Reverchon as well? And were they made basically the same way, or were there some design changes when Zamperla started producing the coasters?
I'm really starting to like the concept of this coaster and can't wait for next year. It makes me wonder if Cajun's days may be numbered. After all, it has all of the issues listed above, and we are getting a coaster that is somewhat similar and heavily themed with better capacity. It's pretty obvious why Six Flags has not elected to build another Zamperla mouse. Then again, I could understand it staying as well, because chances are the GP won't recognize or care how similar the two rides are, Ragin' Cajun still does have the spinning to keep it somewhat unique, and it is still more family friendly then some of the other coasters in the park.
I can be disappointed...It maskes little sense as to why they would choose it. Honestly I think they could have "betterd" themselves by adding a flat or two. Coasters are great to have but they are adding a non-spinning and indoor mouse coaster only hundreds of feet away from cajun. A new S&S giant swing would have been nice with even a ferris wheel...I mean I just dont get it. I do but I dont. Whatever Im through, its fine. Im sure Itll be a lovely addition that will make many people happy. They just had to clone themselves. I find so little originality in this.
I think this ride will be fun. We wont lose any rides, we get a new coaster, and we'll probably get somehing big in a couple of years.
Six Flags will not remove Ragin' Cajun, think guys, before you write something. if you guys are disapointed, too bad. The world does not reval around you. If you think this coaster is stupid, then don't ride it/don't plan on riding it. This is new Six Flags.
Six Flags Ameirca as the number 1 park at SFI.... this is JOKE!
Looks awesome....you haven't even seen it yet.
He has his opinion on the ride without having rode it yet, and you have yours. Your both judging a ride before you have even seen it yet. It could be good, it could suck. Who knows at this point. Ill wait until I ride it before I judge the ride, or other's opinions. Go Bulls!
Dave - SFGAmWorld Webmaster
We have 2 tracks of American Eagle.... and no one is complaining. Before you say the tacks are different, I'm sure it wont be a clone of ragin cajun, so it will be different. Since it's a dark ride, the GP probably wont know that is gets off the ground. Also, If its themed we wont have the same ride as cajun..... I think that cajun in the pitch dark would be a great ride.... and thats sorta what we're getting.
When Zamperla took over Reverchon, the only major change I've seen is the car design, the newer Zamperla ones have cars with lap bars instead of shoulder harnesses.
Reverchon had no such system, most of the Spinning mice made by Reverchon have their lapbars operated by plugging a 3 prong cord into the back of the car to unlock the bars. Outside of that, the bars had no monitoring system. Though when SFGAm bought RC from Zamperla they screwed with and totally screwed up the ride cause "it was not up to their(SF) standards"
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[quote="[jonrev] When Zamperla took over Reverchon, the only major change I've seen is the car design, the newer Zamperla ones have cars with lap bars instead of shoulder harnesses.[/quote]
Wrong Jon... I’ve had the pleasure to see both blueprints and even climb under both types cars there is a lot of big differences!!! Now onto the 3 person rule. The average adult over 54 weights about 150-200 lbs. When you get more weight in the cars than designed not only extra stress is on the car, but the booster tires are unable to stop the train flying out of the rotation (due to weight and extra speed) and cars tend to collide in the station! Not only does that lead to pissed off guests but… that also does more damage to the cars!! * This Space is for rent, call 1800-025-6963*
Am I not seeing things, or has anyone else noticed that the park's website has removed all references to the ride? It's not on their homepage and it's not in their news section. It's also been removed from their rides list.
http://www.sixflags.com/greatAmerica/index.aspx
Hmmm....that's quite odd
I didn't see it either. SFSTL's site still has evel kneviel...http://www.sixflags.com/stLouis/index.aspx
The Dark Knight Coaster is comming next year, park removed it from the site, because they will re- announce it. Why? because people do not have any idea how the ride will look like, no renders, no animation no nothing. Soon it will be back up w. visual efects.
Six Flags Ameirca as the number 1 park at SFI.... this is JOKE!
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there is the new spokesperson for the new Dark Knight coaster, his name is Mack in the Box Last edited by FParker185 on September 28th, 2007, 10:06 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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