No Smoking at Six Flags

[TooTired]

I'm aware of the health risk involved in smoking. I stand by what I said.

"And Galvan, complaining about secondhand smoke outside isn't really that assinine. What's the difference between standing next to a smoker that is outside, where the smoke is blowing in my face, and standing next to a smoker that is inside (picture a gymnasium), where the smoke is still blowing in my face. What do four walls and a ceiling do to suddenly make secondhand smoke matter? The sun doesn't just evaporate all the smoke; a cigerette is a cigerette whether you are inside or outside."

Four walls and a ceiling make a HUGE difference. Theres a reason you're not supposed to sit in a running car in a garage. And if you'll read everyone's posts you'll realize that no courteous smoker is going to stand right next to you or blow smoke in your face.

Also, I feel for people with asthma. I've had a very serious asthma attack and its one of the scarriest things I've ever experienced. But there is no way secondhand smoke from ten to fifteen feet away from a smoker outside can trigger an asthma attack. As someone with asthma I take steps to ensure I will never have another attack, and anyone else with asthma should be aware of how to do the same.

[Galvan]

I dont smoke, i have in the past but i dont smoke now, And its completely assinine to say that second hand smoke will effect you as much as outside as it will inside.


Ventalation is the whole reason why secon hand smoke has become a problem, and even in resturants its not even an issue because of the high-tech ventalation systems in most places.

Look, the bottom line is this... Let the smokers smoke in the designated areas... They choose to smoke thats there right, Not anyone elses.

[basketballa1344]

And if you'll read everyone's posts you'll realize that no courteous smoker is going to stand right next to you or blow smoke in your face.

The reason that this new rule has been adoted is not because of the courteous smokers that go to the park. If everyone who smoked at the park was courteous than the smoking wouldn't be an issue. If you were to read everyone's posts (including your own) you would see that not all smokers follow the rules, and that is where the problem comes in.

[twixmix0303]

TooTired, there is no way you can compare the exhaust from a car to a tiny little cigerette. A passing cloud of smoke is a passing cloud of smoke whether you are inside or outside. As Mark Shapiro put it, you still have to "dodge clouds of smoke" when you're outside. Don't tell me that smoke doesn't exist.

[TooTired]

Twixmix, I know you can't compare the exhaust from a car to a tiny little cigerette, which is why I used that comparison. You walk from the parking lot to to the entrance just fine. And there are a LOT of cars on a busy day. But somehow you manage to to breath just fine. I think you missed the point I was getting at.

[twixmix0303]

When you're in a parking lot, you're not walking directly behind the cars right through the white exhaust given off. You don't breathe any of it in, unless you are walking behind one.

Same goes for cigerettes. You're fine until some jacka** lights up next to you and you get a big whiff of smoke. I'm not saying that you aren't a courteous smoker. Like basketballa1344 said, if all the smokers were courteous, and lit up away from others, this wouldn't be a problem. But many don't, so this forces them to.

The other thing to consider is smoking is considered a bad habit by many, just like swearing. If parents don't want their kids swearing, they don't want their kids to be around people who are swearing. The same goes for smoking. They don't want their kids exposed to cigerettes. It's the kids of smokers who end up becoming the next generation of smokers, not the kids who have never been exposed to smoking at home.

[Director_Guy]

maybe the smoking ban has nothing to do with health....maybe it has to do with the amount of litter it can cause.... you see quite a few cigarette butts on the ground... my friends that smoke dont usually throw away the cigarettes in *triumphant music* TRASH RECEPTICLES! They'd just throw them on the ground. or in water somewhere.

[FRD714]

Someone has probably already said this, but I think they banned smoking becuase of all the kids and families in the park. It makes the park look bad.

[twixmix0303]

maybe the smoking ban has nothing to do with health....maybe it has to do with the amount of litter it can cause.... you see quite a few cigarette butts on the ground... my friends that smoke dont usually throw away the cigarettes in *triumphant music* TRASH RECEPTICLES! They'd just throw them on the ground. or in water somewhere.

The only problem with throwing them out is that if they aren't properly distinguished, they'll continue to burn and besides having the possibility to start a small fire, they will definately make the garbage can and guests walking by get a whiff of smoke (especially if it's a new ciggy that still has a lot left). Bleh!

You're definately right about the litter. I kept thinking about that but forgot to mention it.

[FreghtFestFreak3]

TooTired, let me throw a few facts at you about smo0king that you probaly already know but forgot.
-No one really notices it but smoking is lioke slow suicide. With akll of the cancers you put yourself at a higher risk of, emphysema, and evetything else.
-With every pack you smoke, you incre3ase youre chances at getting one of these diseases
-It is impossible to get cancer of the mouth if you don't smoke. My mom has been smoking since probably before i was born and she's at high risk for mouth cancer.
-The longer you stay smoke-free, the less your chances are for quitting. actually it starts within 15-20 minutes of not smoking.
-Second-hand smoke IS a threat. There have been cases where people didn't smoke, but they still inhaled second-hand smoke frm time to time and they still got lung cancer.

Now I'm not telling you to quit smoking but as a strong member of SADD, I need to tell you a few important facts. Also, what if someone around you is trying to quit smoking and then they smell YOUR smoke and then they get a craving or something. They were SO CLOSE to breaking the habit for good and then you had to come along and smoke, breaking that.

I, as earlier stated, think this is a really smart move on Six Flags' part. For other reasons, it keeps children from being exposed to second-hand smoke at an early age and it keeps teens from wanting to smoke to "seem cool." People get that enough at places liek malls and stuff, being able to go somehwere and not have to worry about that is a good thing. I support Six Flags 100% on this move.

And I'm sorry if you have somnething against my views bvut everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

Oh, and one more thing. Director_Guy has a major point. If Six Flags were to put ash trays on the top of all of their garbade cans, then one could just extinguish and no more litter! WHAT A CONCEPT! sheesh, It's not that hard to walk a few extra feet to take care of that...

[ragingbullchick]

There's a good reason behind all of this...
Six Flags doesn't want you to be harmed by secondhand smoke. I now that's very obvious, but I feel that some poeple posting here are failing to realize that.

Now, my Dad is a smoker, and I don't want to be anywhere near him when he lights up. I'm sure many people feel the same way. As for my Dad, he wouldn't mind walking to another area of the park to have a smoke. He doesn't want to harm kids, or poeple of any age for that matter. So he will be cooperative with this new policy.

I am VERY aware that many smokers could care less about this entire rule, and they don't want it. But they can learn how to be respectful, because that's the way the world should be in the first place.

I don't mean to offend any smokers here, but it's a bad habit, and believe me, from watching the effects it's had on my Great Uncle, it can hurt you. From watching my Dad, I can tell that quitting is easier said than done. But there is absolutley no reason why smokers can't walk 20 feet from where they are to light up and not harm anyone but themselves.

Sorry if that offended anyone, it wsn't meant to be hard on you guys.

[twixmix0303]

It's not that Six Flags doesn't want its guests to be harmed, they just don't want their guests inconvenienced. It's more of a customer service thing than health thing.

[zjohn1988]

It is my belief that they ask you questions and everything once they take you into Guest Relations etc etc.

Seriously, why would you want to risk getting your (very expensive i might add) Season pass revoked, just for a few extra puffs on a cigarette just to say you went against the rules.

If you ask me thats pretty stupid, I mean while im sure you enjoy a good cigarette, (ask anyone who smokes and im sure they'll say the samething) Id say that you enjoy SFGAM alot more. So much in fact that you wouldnt want your Season Pass revoked over it.

If security is going to make sure you're pass gets revoked, you get to go backstage

[TwistedSTEEL666]

this makes me happy...

[SFaddiction84]

It wont be that bad, at least the smokers will be getting designated AREA's. but i can assure there will be MANY violations the first year or half year. since its new and all

[Gangsta Fruit 26]

YEAH!!! I'm happy, I never actually had a problem with it at six flags before but I'm still happy. I hate cigarettes. Smoking sucks. I hope that they stop making them (I know it won't happen but it would be awesome). This is a really good thing for six flags. They should ban smoking in ever place in the world except your homes.

[sfgam05]

All you guys are complaining like this topic is about drugs, its cigarettes. Just calm down and stop preaching what your mommies taught you, little things always end up blowing up to huge problems on this forum lately. Point is if any of you feel "violated" or offended by people blowing smoke in your face then do something about it, don't go judging all the smokers over one inconsiderant person. By the way, I'm a nonsmoker, and smokers in the outdoors dont bother me whatsoever.

[twixmix0303]

No one is really judging anybody, only pointing out that smoking is bad for you. And that more often than not people don't like it and don't approve of it.

[basketballa1344]

All you guys are complaining like this topic is about drugs, its cigarettes.

Can you tell me what it is about cigarettes that makes you think they are not a drug?

[TooTired]

I'm sure he meant illegal drugs. If you want to play that game, caffiene is a drug, should they stop selling soft drinks? Of course not, I think a lot of people on this board like to argue for the sake of arguing

[mschulz5]

Caffeine doesn't kill 1 out of every 3 people who drink it.

Smoking does.

[TooTired]

Yeah, we get it, smoking isn't good. The question was "Is nicotine a drug".

Every smoker knows its bad for them. Don't preach to smokers, they know the risk involved.

[w00dland]

Certain kids on here need to really stop preaching what DARE class taught them back in 5th grade. You think smokers don't hear what is said on the news every week or what is printed on the packages of what they smoke? They do. I don't understand what you're trying to accomplish by preaching in this thread but it should stop.

[twixmix0303]

I'm "preaching" against posts like:

I'm sucking in copious amounts of smoke and I'm just fine.

I'm keeping a pretty good distance from large groups of people how much smoke are they really going to inhale?

These anti-smoking people are pathetic.

This rule seems to cater to the minority.

Second-hand smoke is nothing but an illusion for which the anti-smoking community feeds off of without knowing the facts.

(this post by low42 is one of the dumbest in this thread)

[TooTired]

Okay, that first quote is taken out of context. I was refering to my asthma, and I haven't had a smoking induced asthma attack as of yet, so kiss off.

The second quote I still stand by, if you keep fifteen feet between yourself from a smoker and you're outdoors, you're not going to inhale much, if any smoke.

The third quote is an opinion, not one that I share, but an opinion none the less. Please respect other people's opinions.

This rule does cater to the minority, there are only a few people who are really against other people smoking. The problem is, they are the most vocal. The people who don't care, don't talk about it, unfortunately it creates the illusion that a majority of people are against smoking. Which is untrue.

I'm not going to touch that last quote with a twenty foot pole.