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Postby Mr. SFGAm on January 27th, 2006, 6:37 pm
Binks Drake wrote:Can you just imagine walking through the SUF line and watching Superman and Brainiac having a little battle of some kind? They have so many characters they can use, not just Looney Tunes and Cartoon Network Characters.


Those are some really good ideas you have! It would be so much more entertaining to watch some sort of show while waiting for a ride, rather than that lame TV system they have.
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Postby Trailblazer Tony on January 27th, 2006, 8:24 pm
^Or they could do what Cedar Point did with Millennium Force's line and have a DJ in it taking requests. Anything to make the line seem faster.
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Postby [jonrev] on January 27th, 2006, 8:41 pm
^They really did that? They should do that for RB's line on Saturdays.
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Postby FRD714 on January 27th, 2006, 11:31 pm
Trailblazer Tony wrote:^Or they could do what Cedar Point did with Millennium Force's line and have a DJ in it taking requests. Anything to make the line seem faster.

Thats cool.
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Postby rct2wizard360 on January 28th, 2006, 12:34 am
His ideas are amazing. But theres a way to incooperate this all together.

I wouldn't mind a gigantic flat package. From basic to thrills.

I have a feeling he's going to do good things with our park, and the next coaster we get...well...depends on how good he can get our park up.

I see this as a whole overhaul of the chain.

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Postby FRD714 on January 28th, 2006, 12:36 am
This thread should be called "What Shapiro isn't thinking......." :wink:
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Postby Moo on January 28th, 2006, 2:59 pm
I'm really excited about the Pictorium. It's really think its been in the dumps lately with shows almost as a bad as a highschool documentary students are forced to watch. (Well maybe not that bad) A "4d" show would be excellent, especially on a hot day...

Also, in the next few years, some more flat packages would be perfeclty fine. That's what I loved about Mardi Gras, the new flats. It gives people who don't want to ride the coasters a thing to do.
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Postby FParker185 on January 28th, 2006, 3:15 pm
I dont know, 4-D shows are usually like 5-10 mins long.

I like the IMAX just cause you can get nearly a full hour of sleep in an AC'd building in the middle of the day. Sucks with the new chairs though in there, the old puke orange ones were far more comfortable and easier to sleep in (though granted they were nasty dirty and in bad shape)
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Postby LaTiNoObSeSeDSFGAm on January 28th, 2006, 4:07 pm
What do you think the new commericials will look like now? Do you think theyll be like just how they were before, without Mr. Six? Or will they be focusing more families than thrills?
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Postby twixmix0303 on January 28th, 2006, 5:17 pm
FParker185, I don't think most people go in there to sleep. ;) The kids would appreciate a 4-D a lot more, anyways.
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Postby Ilovthevu' on January 28th, 2006, 5:51 pm
Moo wrote:Also, in the next few years, some more flat packages would be perfeclty fine. That's what I loved about Mardi Gras, the new flats. It gives people who don't want to ride the coasters a thing to do.


I think our park has enough flats to cover SFOG, SFStL, and SFMM for goodness sakes. I've never to SFMM, but I don't think they have a lot of flats. I would add that Scooby-doo ride instead of four other flats to our park. I think our park really has enough flats that are not as much thrilling as teens would hope in the park already though. In my opinion, there has to be a balance. You don't want to lose the 1400 people in line for RB or BTR. Yet NOT adding more thrills to the park will do it.

Our park has Condor, Triple Play, Hometown Fun Machine, Great American Raceway, Fiddler's Fling (beats me why alot of teens won't ride this), Whirlgig, BEB, Chubasco (except Fright Fest), Ricochet, Columbia Carousel, The Orbit (again puzzled why hardly any teens), River Rocker, STT (mixed even though more non-teens), Jester's Wild Ride, East River Crawler, Train, and the water rides not in HH are pretty much mixed.

The "thrililng flat rides" that many teenagers go on in my opionion are KC, Revolution the Ride, Rue Le Dodge (half and half I'm guessing: I don't go on it enough to tell you for sure.)Giant Drop, and the water rides. So, if it's not a rollercoaster, it's usually a limited number of flats it seems to me (in my opinion) that a teen will go on.

With family rides coming into the park, that means that teens might come into park anymore which is bad. There are about 10 rollercoasters to serve the teens needs along with these three flats and water rides. Stargate SG-3000 can be included too. Thus, my conclusion is that there are alot more non-teen flats in the park already. If you are not going to be adding rollercoasters in the future, the park still needs another Revy, GD, KC, or Stargate to satisfy the teens.

The point is that SF is full to brim with flats. SFGAm has tons and tons compared to other parks in my opinion. I'm not going to declare that everyone of them is good though like the Trailblazer which I think stinks.
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Postby SFaddiction84 on January 28th, 2006, 6:50 pm
as far as he said, We need to reduce lines by having ALL Trains running at all times, will that include water rides? and will this go INTO affect at all parks?
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Postby twixmix0303 on January 28th, 2006, 9:32 pm
If Stargate goes to make room for the waterpark, converting the IMAX to a 4-D would make a lot of sense.

If it were up to me, I'd take out all the games and put in Scooby Doo Ghostblasters in place of the mega carnival across from American Eagle (whatever that is called).
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Postby Coaster Alex0805 on January 28th, 2006, 9:50 pm
I say we need to Add ALOT more rides that are great for familys and little children but not in one area all around the park so they dont feel like there at a little kid area of SF
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Postby Trailblazer Tony on January 28th, 2006, 10:28 pm
Ilovthevu' wrote:
Moo wrote:Also, in the next few years, some more flat packages would be perfeclty fine. That's what I loved about Mardi Gras, the new flats. It gives people who don't want to ride the coasters a thing to do.


I think our park has enough flats to cover SFOG, SFStL, and SFMM for goodness sakes. I've never to SFMM, but I don't think they have a lot of flats. I would add that Scooby-doo ride instead of four other flats to our park. I think our park really has enough flats that are not as much thrilling as teens would hope in the park already though. In my opinion, there has to be a balance. You don't want to lose the 1400 people in line for RB or BTR. Yet NOT adding more thrills to the park will do it.

Our park has Condor, Triple Play, Hometown Fun Machine, Great American Raceway, Fiddler's Fling (beats me why alot of teens won't ride this), Whirlgig, BEB, Chubasco (except Fright Fest), Ricochet, Columbia Carousel, The Orbit (again puzzled why hardly any teens), River Rocker, STT (mixed even though more non-teens), Jester's Wild Ride, East River Crawler, Train, and the water rides not in HH are pretty much mixed.

The "thrililng flat rides" that many teenagers go on in my opionion are KC, Revolution the Ride, Rue Le Dodge (half and half I'm guessing: I don't go on it enough to tell you for sure.)Giant Drop, and the water rides. So, if it's not a rollercoaster, it's usually a limited number of flats it seems to me (in my opinion) that a teen will go on.

With family rides coming into the park, that means that teens might come into park anymore which is bad. There are about 10 rollercoasters to serve the teens needs along with these three flats and water rides. Stargate SG-3000 can be included too. Thus, my conclusion is that there are alot more non-teen flats in the park already. If you are not going to be adding rollercoasters in the future, the park still needs another Revy, GD, KC, or Stargate to satisfy the teens.

The point is that SF is full to brim with flats. SFGAm has tons and tons compared to other parks in my opinion. I'm not going to declare that everyone of them is good though like the Trailblazer which I think stinks.


I got to ask, what is wrong with the Trailblazer? In case you can't tell, it is my favorite flat in the park. :wink:

I think that Shapiro is on the right track with our park, he knows that we don't need a lot of family flats, but rather kiddy flats. Seriously, if I had a kid, I would just take him to kiddieland if you consider how much you pay to get in with what you get for your money. It is this attitude that he is trying to prevent, so I don't have a problem with that.
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Postby Ilovthevu' on January 29th, 2006, 12:26 am
twixmix0303 wrote:If Stargate goes to make room for the waterpark, converting the IMAX to a 4-D would make a lot of sense.

If it were up to me, I'd take out all the games and put in Scooby Doo Ghostblasters in place of the mega carnival across from American Eagle (whatever that is called).


They would never do that in a million years. They would take out Stargate before they get rid of those games. The place I thought that would go for that Ghostblasters is right where the Hometown Fun Machine (move it) and the one or two buildings next to it.

Read this article. It says that the new commercials will involve Superman Returns (movie coming out), and more focus on family.
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Postby twixmix0303 on January 29th, 2006, 1:37 am
Hometown Fun Machine's island is nowhere big enough for an indoor attraction. Besides, the buildings there are classic. :)
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Postby Binks Drake on January 29th, 2006, 11:47 am
If I were to put in SDGB, I would put it in Yukon. I realize it would kill the yukon theming but that's mostly dead already. I would Take Down Cartoon Cabin, Claimjumpers, and Snow Caps. Put SDGB against the Lake, and build a new shop to replace Snow Caps Called "Mystery Inc." and a new stand to replace Claimjumpers of course called "Scooby Snacks" :wink: Clearly, I've given this some thought...
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Postby rct2wizard360 on January 29th, 2006, 12:26 pm
The thing with our park is...

A lot of my friends, they hate heights, but love being whipped around on flats. When they walk around the park, they find themselves bored rather quickly. As I said earlier in the topic, we could use another flat package. It's cheap, and if we get a decent package, boasting of 5-10 new rides should get people coming, or atleast keep them in.
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Postby twixmix0303 on January 29th, 2006, 12:36 pm
Binks, if it had to go in Yukon, I would put it in place of Wilderness Theater. However, Wilderness Theater has a lot of potential as a location for a character show. PGA already uses it for this purpose.
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Postby RBull4life on January 29th, 2006, 2:41 pm
The more I read what Shapiro has to say. the more I am liking this guy. Who knows what the possibilties will be once the chain is out of debt. I think we are going to see a vastly different Great America within the next 2-3 years, and I for one, can't wait to see the changes.


Do they even use Wilderness theater much any more?
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Postby twixmix0303 on January 29th, 2006, 2:52 pm
I think they use it for cheerleading competitions.
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Postby Binks Drake on January 29th, 2006, 3:06 pm
They used to use it for Gospel Fest and Joyfest but i don't even think they did this year. Meanwhile I imagine it will be used this year becasue of all the new Entertainment stuff this year.
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Postby Trailblazer Tony on January 29th, 2006, 3:47 pm
^I thought they used the Southwest Territory Amphitheater for those this year.
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Postby RBull4life on January 29th, 2006, 5:18 pm
^ They did for alot of special events. I know that Radio Disney's event was held there.
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