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Postby CoasterDude12-2 on January 10th, 2006, 4:05 pm
^That's kind of ominous, but if SFA changed their policy back then SFStl probably would too.
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Postby twixmix0303 on January 10th, 2006, 8:57 pm
ihauntu2 wrote:Motley Fool had picked up on the rumor of all Six Flags Parks adopting this policy at http://biz.yahoo.com/fool/060110/113690169201.html?.v=1.

I emailed the author with the link to SFA's policy since it isn't in the article.


Did the same here, too, except on MSNBC.com.

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/10788771/
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Postby Galvan on January 10th, 2006, 10:10 pm
Good Work guys, this has got to be the most press a Six Flags rumor has ever gotten.

Just goes to show you how rampantly absurd people are when they jump to ridiculous conclussions.
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Postby ihauntu2 on January 13th, 2006, 4:18 pm
This may not be a rumor, Motley Fool has issued an article letting Six Flags know what a stupid policy it would be. Its by the same author as Tuesdays Article - http://www.fool.com/news/commentary/200 ... it=y&npu=y

Also, I have checked all Six Flags Park Policies and we may have a problem. As of 10am today this is how they stood

Parks with a stated policy allowing re-entry
SFA - http://www.sixflags.com/parks/america/P ... icies.html
SFDL- http://www.sixflags.com/parks/darienlak ... icies.html
SFMW - http://www.sixflags.com/parks/marinewor ... icies.html

Parks with a stated policy of no re-entry:
SFNE - http://www.sixflags.com/parks/newenglan ... icies.html

It should be noted that SFA changed its policy on Tuesday, and SFNE was suddenly found to have the no re-entry policy

Park with no stated policy other than the text under Season pass indicating there is re-entry
SFGADV - http://www.sixflags.com/parks/greatadve ... icies.html


Then there is the majority of the Six Flags Parks. They no longer have a stated policy on re-entry. The problem with this is that on Tuesday both SFGAM and SFSTL had a stated policy allowing re-entry. Couple that with the weird response I got from SFSTL on Tuesday, and I fear that there is a plan to put this policy into effect at some of these parks. By not stating a policy, it gives them the opportunity to spring it on us closer to opening day.

SFMM - http://www.sixflags.com/parks/magicmoun ... icies.html
SFEG - http://www.sixflags.com/parks/elitchgar ... icies.html
SFOT - http://www.sixflags.com/parks/overtexas ... icies.html
SFFT - http://www.sixflags.com/parks/fiestatex ... icies.html
SFSTL - http://www.sixflags.com/parks/stlouis/P ... icies.html (Was allowed as of Tuesday)
SFGAM - http://www.sixflags.com/parks/greatamer ... icies.html (was allowed as of Tuesday)
SFKK - http://www.sixflags.com/parks/kentuckyk ... icies.html
SFOG - http://www.sixflags.com/parks/overgeorg ... icies.html
SFGE - http://www.sixflags.com/parks/greatesca ... icies.html


I sincerely hope that my fear is not realized, and that the Motley Fool Article helps to put the pressure on Six Flags, and get rid of any plans for this policy at any park.
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Postby Coaster Alex0805 on January 13th, 2006, 4:20 pm
Parks with a stated policy of no re-entry:
SFNE - http://www.sixflags.com/parks/newenglan ... icies.html

You can find it says no re entry on Guest Services Link
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Postby CoasterDave316 on January 13th, 2006, 4:25 pm
ihauntu2 wrote:By not stating a policy, it gives them the opportunity to spring it on us closer to opening day.

Unless of course you already have your 2006 season pass where it states on the back "If you leave the park and plan to re-enter the same day, you must have your hand stamped at the exit gate."
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Postby Galvan on January 13th, 2006, 4:30 pm
What a retarded move...

You know for a company with one foot in the grave and then other on a banana peel, they do some pretty dumb stuff.


Hopefully with all the negitive media attention given to Six Flags, they will realize this is really stupid.

What if im diabetic and need an insulin shot 15 minutes after I entered a park? They are expecting me to pay another 50 dollars? What are you people retarded?

Six Flags like the article said, dont screw this chance up.
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Postby low42 on January 13th, 2006, 4:45 pm
Sounds like a ploy to keep people from leaving the park to go out to their cars and eat. :D I don't agree with the policy, but I can understand it. They'll make more from their restaurants and foods stands. And if SFGAm is anything to go by it will help with the trash in the parking lot. Yes, I've seen it after you slobs leave. It always looks like a waste dump.

It makes perfect sense to me, but I still think the policy sucks.
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Postby DejaVuGurl1203 on January 13th, 2006, 4:46 pm
That is a really extremely stupid move, and I just hope they realize it before they make things worse and before it's too late. ^^ And you have a good point. ^^
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Postby Iggy ACE on January 13th, 2006, 4:47 pm
You think that the lines to get through the metal detectors are long now! Wait till everyone has to bring in bags to store all their stuff and all have to be checked, and when lockers are sold out and everyone has to carry them around it will slow the rides down more so they can go put them to the side.

Iggy--who wonders why the "new" management keeps comparing a day at the park to a sporting event or concert in terms of re-entry?
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Postby DejaVuGurl1203 on January 13th, 2006, 4:49 pm
^ It's already bad enough with my parents, so imagine if tons of people did that... they always bring huge bags and fanny packs and it takes FOREVER for them to get it checked, and that's why I am always in the park way before they are. I basically do not want to be seen with them.
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Postby SFGAm Shock Wave on January 13th, 2006, 5:42 pm
As it is now, even though I can go to Burger King, I usually buy food in the park to save time. I also occasionally buy shirts and stuff.

If this no re-entry policy goes into effect, I will not spend another penny inside the park. I will go to Burger King for breakfast, and for lunch I will stuff a sandwich or something in my pocket. I have no problem spending the money, but it pisses me off severely when someone thinks they can scam me in to giving them more money.
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Postby MSLSM on January 13th, 2006, 5:58 pm
I hope the price is not raised, but do you think they will charge extra for the water park? I hope they don't though, but if Snyder wanted to make some more money, you would think he would charge entery to the water park.
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Postby ihauntu2 on January 13th, 2006, 6:21 pm
CoasterDave316 wrote:Unless of course you already have your 2006 season pass where it states on the back "If you leave the park and plan to re-enter the same day, you must have your hand stamped at the exit gate."


Well that might explain why SFSTL is not shipping its 2006 season passes until Mid-February. Perhaps they are changing the legal language on the back?

I mentioned earlier that I thought it was weird they were waiting.
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Postby Danhockey04 on January 13th, 2006, 6:26 pm
Well, I have my SFGAm season pass, and on the back, it clearly states that re-admittance is allowed. Now if they change this, they will have to give everyone a new season pass with the new conditions stated on it.
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Postby Coaster Alex0805 on January 13th, 2006, 6:35 pm
True. They would have to send/give you a new one
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Postby LAFFfan4lyfe on January 13th, 2006, 7:01 pm
While i understand why they would want to not allow people to be readmitted into the park, I think it's a horrible move on Six Flag's part. I agree w/ what Galvan said about certain medical things, because if you have to do something as far as medical that is not in the park, then you can't help that. I think that if the no re-entry policy goes into effect, then the food prices will probably rise food prices, so we'll have to spend more money to buy food. I hate how this is happening....scammers...
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Postby RagingBullFan on January 13th, 2006, 7:59 pm
Actually...

I know this is how CP worked but I'd bet Six Flags is the same way...

For Insulin and other injections that need refridgeration etc. they can all be stored free of charge at first aid. That way if you need a shot it is already in the park and if something happens to you they know who you are and they know how to help you better.
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Postby CoasterDave316 on January 13th, 2006, 8:03 pm
Here's another story about the re-entry:

http://themeparks.about.com/b/a/235383.htm

And to no surprise it's negative.

Danhockey04 wrote:Well, I have my SFGAm season pass, and on the back, it clearly states that re-admittance is allowed. Now if they change this, they will have to give everyone a new season pass with the new conditions stated on it.


Actually if they are changing the condition of the season passes, I think they would have to refund everybody's money and re-sell them to you.

Anyone want to take bets that if they go through with this, that Guest Relations has the longest line in the park on opening day.
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Postby RagingBullFan on January 13th, 2006, 8:11 pm
No, they wouldn't have to ( I only have my 05 season pass ) and the last line states

Please visit sixflags.com for park locations, operating schedules, park-specific policies and season pass updates.


By having that they can change the terms and conditions because that would be considered a "Season Pass Update" even if they did claim that, it'd be quite possibly the stupidest idea ever.
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Postby CoasterDave316 on January 13th, 2006, 8:52 pm
I love the PR response the no re-entry.

So what's behind this bizarre move? According to the chain's research, Goldberg says that many guests who ask for hand stamps that would allow them to reenter later in the day never actually return. If Six Flags holds a place for them and the park is near capacity, it might prevent new patrons from entering. And that wouldn't be a positive guest experience, would it?


Yeah like Six Flags parks are having capacity problems all the time. They are lucky to have 1 day during the season where the park is at full capacity and can't take anymore guests.

And this excuse is even worse:
Goldberg adds that the policy also takes guests' safety into consideration. "Running back and forth out of parks into busy parking lots could put guests in danger," she notes. "At some Six Flags parks, guests have to cross a highway to reach the front gate." Well, under the new policy, guests will still have to enter and exit the park once per day. Does that mean Six Flags is knowingly placing their patrons in harm's way?

It's only a matter of time before they start saying this is to help prevent a terrorist attack.
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Postby twixmix0303 on January 13th, 2006, 9:37 pm
Does it specifically state that re-entry is allowed, or does it say that you need a handstamp for re-entry? Technically, if all it says is that you need a handstamp for re-entry, it doesn't say that there actually is same day re-entry.
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Postby Ilovthevu' on January 13th, 2006, 10:37 pm
For those parks listed (I'm guessing. I only checked SFGAm), they have the re-entry policy on their guest service's page. For that quote previously stated, it's the parks fault for having a highway to begin with.
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Postby SFGAm Shock Wave on January 13th, 2006, 11:14 pm
SFOG will also attempt this policy in 2006. Although the website hasn't been updated yet, someone from SFOG's PR department posted it on SFOG Net:

http://www.sfog.net/forums/index.php?to ... 5#msg10605
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Postby Carlo on January 14th, 2006, 12:07 am
CoasterDave316 wrote:Here's another story about the re-entry:

Actually if they are changing the condition of the season passes, I think they would have to refund everybody's money and re-sell them to you.


If the Terms and Conditions change on the Season Pass, (Which is what is happening) you would have a right to requested a refund if you do not agree with the terms and conditions. This will applies to Season Passes as well as Tickets that are purchased prior to the policy being known. So they will not refund everyone money or even issues new season passes. They would do nothing in less you request that you want a refund because you do not agree with the new terms and conditions.
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