SfGaM and B&Ms?

by **coasterzak** on June 2nd, 2003, 4:03 pm

Aren't all floorlesses B&M?

by **DejaVuGurl1203** on June 2nd, 2003, 5:21 pm

Yeah, all floorlesses are B&Ms.

by **T_Biggs** on June 2nd, 2003, 6:15 pm

The closest one is at Worlds of Adventure. I'll be getting a taste of it in less than 2 weeks. It has a lot to live up to if it wants to knock Kraken out of my favorite B&M spot.

by **DejaVuGurl1203** on June 2nd, 2003, 7:16 pm

I'm gonna be riding Kraken this July, I can't wait! It looks so awesome! I might go to SFWOA this August and I'll be riding BKF for sure, it looks pretty cool.

R.I.P. Deja Vu 10/07/01-10/28/07

I forgot that SFWoA has one. Ill make sure I go there this summer.

by **coasterdude12** on July 11th, 2004, 4:56 pm

Geauga Lake has a B&M coaster, and Cedar Point has two.

by **Ilovthevu'** on July 11th, 2004, 8:27 pm

The thing that I like about B&M rollercoasters is the fact that they have four seats to a row. I don't know about how many companies follow in this tradition, but it has to be low. It makes lines move so fast, and the reliability of a B&M is pretty good. You can tell how good SFGAm and B&M relationship really is.

Look at how fast SUF was up and running, and compare them with D Vu, and V2. This wasn't mentioned before, but I love the scenery that was used for SUF (signs, pictures, Superman logo), and BTR. I'm not positive they did all of it, but it looked so great (at least on SUF still).
The way I think of a floorless coaster is RB with a loop, and your feet above the track (which someone said before). I have not ridden one before, but I don't know what makes it so great.

by **Virtua Tennis** on July 13th, 2004, 7:03 am

The thing that I like about B&M rollercoasters is the fact that they have four seats to a row. I don't know about how many companies follow in this tradition, but it has to be low. It makes lines move so fast, and the reliability of a B&M is pretty good. You can tell how good SFGAm and B&M relationship really is.

Actually 4 riders per row doesn't help capacity, or at least nothing noticable, it's designed like that because the tight twists it can only have 1 row per car which explains the 4 seats. Coasters that have 7 cars of 2 rows with 2 seats per row have the same amount of seats as a B&M with 7 cars, PLUS you have to factor in the many empty seats the 4 across always cause which makes 2 per row capacity BETTER.

by **Ilovthevu'** on July 13th, 2004, 8:57 am

Let's see how this helps between Demon and BTR for one train only. For 10 rides on BTR, we have 32 (supposedly) times 10 = 320. For Demon, 10 x 28 (supposedly) = 280. Let's estimate that they can do 10 rides in 20 minutes (even though they might be able to do more because they have more than one train).

So, we have a 40 person difference. Not much, but when you make it 30 rides (supposedly) per hour, you get 960 compared to 840 which is a whopping 120 people more. This is only train, not two. So, if you have two, you are adding 8 more people everytime (supposedly). Two trains 240. Maybe, that's why BTR line moves so fast. I'm not even considering RB which has 9 four seated rows.

by **Virtua Tennis** on July 13th, 2004, 9:12 am

...and the fact that on the 4 seaters almost half the train is normally empty...

by **Ilovthevu'** on July 13th, 2004, 9:25 am

Why is that? The problem is on BTR, people don't move to the left side of the tunnel to ride. On SUF, the workers hold you up, so you can't get in a row. On IW, ever since they had the fastline, it ruined the line (almost the same thing like BTR). RB is the only "normal" line. The lines near the station are messed up, but still these rides get more capacity. I've mostly seen all the other coasters with empty seats too.

by **DejaVu The Ride** on July 13th, 2004, 11:48 am

That is not normally Batman's and Raging Bull's problem. Batman usually has 3/4 filled trains. People know that the one line is for the front. On Raging Bull, people just don't want to pair up, or when they do, the airgates close before they can get to the train. On Iron Wolf, that is a problem except when the fastlane person ihas his/her's head up on job.

by **sixflagsguy5** on July 13th, 2004, 12:19 pm

The best would be a B & M 4 across wooden coaster.

by **Ilovthevu'** on July 13th, 2004, 12:39 pm

I guess you never heard "We are not sending any empty trains out, please move to the left side of the tunnel if you want to ride rows 2-8" on BTR then.

by **DejaVu The Ride** on July 13th, 2004, 12:51 pm

No, I have never heard the quote that you said. I have never seen a full Batman train. All the have are the scrolling signs that say, "stay to the left to escape now".

by **Ilovthevu'** on July 13th, 2004, 1:08 pm

Check on the 15th then.

by **FParker185** on July 14th, 2004, 12:49 am

>The best would be a B & M 4 across wooden
>coaster.

The B&M wood coaster train is 2 across and looks alot like a PTC, exept it rides like crap, ends up looking like crap, on the inside it feels like crap(padding please). I wonder what they are a pile of?

Also Mechanically they are (guess what)..

Feels like riding in a fiberglass bathtub, a 5,000 lb track destroying, unpadded, unable to track, uncomfortable bathtub.

Moral of the story, Dont ever wish for any wood B&M products ever again

almost forgot: in case you want to see such a device..

http://www.rcdb.com/pictures/picmax/six ... clone2.jpg

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