CHANG WATCH: The Official Topic

[onyxhotel08]

Ok, to get back on topic, why is is so bad to have 2 stand ups in one park? Is there a rule? And since we ALL know Iron Wolf is the last ride everyone runs to get on, wasn't it wise Mark was preparing everyone for the near future when Wolf will be put down? I don't get the complaining regarding putting Chang here. I do not. If we had a popular stand up (Riddler's Revenge) then yeah but Wolf is the worst of its kind when looking at stand ups.

[wishman35]

lol, Onyx face it...this topic isn't going anywhere really. If getting back on topic means discussing why having 2 stand ups in one park isn't necessary... then phew.

Plus, imagine having having two Superman esque rides ... except make them the far more unpopular option of two stand ups. It just seems unnecessary no?

Put it this way, of all of the coaster types at Six Flags.. I think stand up is the LAST type of coaster many of us would choose to include a second time (maybe besides another LIM launcher, but hell I would rather have a Wicked Twister type ride to increase ride capacity between both of them!)

[david]

^^ I've been saying that for ages. The only reason Chang is remaining a stand-up, or was even coming here is because the park needs an excuse to tear Iron Wolf down. It has a lot of fans, some of you just aren't a part of that group.

[Goku1910]

It doesn't need an excuse. If it were to be removed, everyone would know the reason.

[wishman35]

I mean I would have accepted our fate of getting another stand up. It is a better alternative to what we have now, so to justify it... then what the heck right..

The only reason though is because hope of getting any other sort of thrill ride just seems daffy anymore. Its clear all that matters is water, water, water, and kids. Sure the families bring in some good coin, but why does MM get to brag about how many coasters they have and we have to just keep hoping something over 100 feet will get built in our park. No doubt we have it better than other parks, but this is Chicago, and I would expect to get treated just as good as LA. If you are going to argue that a park like St. Louis doesn't get as much...well they shouldn't! Chicago is bigger and the park clearly draws more attendance.

Why dont we get X-2 or Bizzaro or Kingda Ka (I know the height restriction) ..but its the principle. I love the waterpark and all ... but its still a place most go for the damn roller coasters.

Let GAdv keep their damn bumpy looper. At least the thing exceeds 3 inversions, perfectly fine in my eyes.

Its our time to get something a little thrilling for a change.

[scipiomask]

Bizarro's incredibly popular at GADV, so I know you're joking but that would never leave without a huge riot.

Actually, all the remaining coasters at GADV are popular except for the kiddie rides and 'sort of' TDK. Especially if GASM leaves.

[wishman35]

No i meant why can't we have a coaster of that sort built at our park.... Not take it from them.

[onyxhotel08]

If all these rumors are true we should know tomorrow. Would they even advertise GASM's closing? And work would begin soon maybe even Friday though the long weekend would derail much work getting done. Again, doing this in a busy area of the park in the busy month of July is stupid. It will be a mess.

[SFGAM76]

i know wikipedia is unreliable but it says Chang is going to be at Six Flags Great Adventure

[SFGAM76]

there getting rid of the great american scream machine maybe we should get that it's the same as shockwave

[Goku1910]

there getting rid of the great american scream machine maybe we should get that it's the same as shockwave

Wikipedia and screamscape is where that rumor started....

Both unreliable sources.

[SFGAM76]

well i guess. here is what we should just do
1. just wait and see what happens
2.if it is going to great adventure and there getting rid of scream machine we should take it

[onyxhotel08]

there getting rid of the great american scream machine maybe we should get that it's the same as shockwave

Yeah, um GASM, if atually going, will die a quick death and be scrapped. The ride is rough and unpopular ala Shockwave in the end. WHY would they bring it here?

[SFGAM76]

idk just an idea my bad

[onyxhotel08]

We don't need a replacement for Shockwave. Superman took over 7 years ago. We need an eventual replacement for Iron Wolf, Whizzer, Demon, etc. Rides ar eplanned 2-3 years in advance so there is still some time left but again GASM is still running as of today...

[david]

International Steel Prices have nearly tripled lately. I can see how this management is working.

[Jackluver18]

Why would they give the GP only a few days to ride GASM, how long did they give the GP to ride Vu before it was gone?

[DejaVu2001]

^ None. Deja Vu's removal wasn't officially confirmed until after the park closed for the season.

[tp41190]

^Well kind of. ACE had a little even closing day and the crew had a sign up in the station. So it's not like the park kept everyone in the dark about it.

[traincrossing9]

chang or not we need a sick new rollercoaster

Why? Because we "deserve" one? I'm just trying to figure out why people keep saying this.

[Goku1910]

^Because they don't want to start a flame war by saying "I want Chang."

[deja blues]

like onyx, I really don't see a problem with having two stand-up coasters. If they are as different as Chang and Iron Wolf, one being compact twisted the other being larger with more inversions and area, then there should be no problem. I mean basically to me it would be the steel equivalent of Viper and American Eagle. One is large and fast, the other is smaller but more compact. They don't compete with each other and both of them really have no effect on each other. The same could be true for Chang and Iron Wolf, if anything Chang might revitalize interest in stand-up coasters. Also, when you think about it, no one is going to think, "ohh I just rode 1 stand up that's enough for the day", most people want to ride every coaster in the park.

[david]

We will know soon enough.

But now I ask. Why DON'T we deserve a new coaster? Our park has a 'world class' water park, and yet we still get additions on the dry side of water type. The last thing we need is a new water or family ride.

"The water park hits capacity nearly everyday."

Shouldn't that be all the more reason to add more on the dry side? People don't find the dry park compelling enough, so they need to go into the water park. Adding something will only make it hit capacity faster. And I don't believe Hurricane Harbor crowds have decreased one bit since it opened.

"Shapiro neglected other parks."

Well Whoopdedoo. I've been saying this all along. How can he NOT neglect parks? His company was in bankruptcy, he's not going to go around and build $10 million scream machines in parks that don't need that sort of thing. Our park hadn't received a single thrill ride in years. He was finally going to give us one, and here comes mister interim CEO, and pulls it right out from underneath our feet.

Splash Water Falls is going to be another extremely hard spot to fill, just like trailblazer. Small compact area. Hell, the only good use right now is a splashdown spot for a dive coaster. And that's definitely not happening.

[monsterfan99]

We will know soon enough.

But now I ask. Why DON'T we deserve a new coaster? Our park has a 'world class' water park, and yet we still get additions on the dry side of water type. The last thing we need is a new water or family ride.

"The water park hits capacity nearly everyday."

Shouldn't that be all the more reason to add more on the dry side? People don't find the dry park compelling enough, so they need to go into the water park. Adding something will only make it hit capacity faster. And I don't believe Hurricane Harbor crowds have decreased one bit since it opened.

It shows people want the water park over the dry park. Plus the more people you get in the water park, the more you make.

[onyxhotel08]

We will know soon enough.

But now I ask. Why DON'T we deserve a new coaster? Our park has a 'world class' water park, and yet we still get additions on the dry side of water type. The last thing we need is a new water or family ride.

"The water park hits capacity nearly everyday."

Shouldn't that be all the more reason to add more on the dry side? People don't find the dry park compelling enough, so they need to go into the water park. Adding something will only make it hit capacity faster. And I don't believe Hurricane Harbor crowds have decreased one bit since it opened.

"Shapiro neglected other parks."

Well Whoopdedoo. I've been saying this all along. How can he NOT neglect parks? His company was in bankruptcy, he's not going to go around and build $10 million scream machines in parks that don't need that sort of thing. Our park hadn't received a single thrill ride in years. He was finally going to give us one, and here comes mister interim CEO, and pulls it right out from underneath our feet.

Splash Water Falls is going to be another extremely hard spot to fill, just like trailblazer. Small compact area. Hell, the only good use right now is a splashdown spot for a dive coaster. And that's definitely not happening.

Though it would have sucked just as bad, I would have left SWF standing until I was ready to replace it. I mean it would have leaked sometimes and all but that area is the worst looking thing the park has and right in th emiddle of County Fair.