CHANG WATCH: The Official Topic

[Goku1910]

if you don't expand (grow) you die. No matter who or where you are.

Kinda Funny. The Zoning Board said the same thing....

[coasterkid94]

Next year SFGAm should make their theme song "Can't be CHANG-ed"!!!!!!!!

[onyxhotel08]

our numbers stay about the same because of little competition. but people do notice when rides for adults/thrill seekers are put in. and most families have some people who are interested in the big boy rides. while the park is ok now, numbers will slowly start to decline if we have to wait another 7 years.

[david]

Take a look at Kentucky Kingdom. There you have it. Without any growth, the numbers will shrink.

[onyxhotel08]

They had very little good rides to start with. We have several classics (Whizzer, Eagle, Batman, Bull) a first class water park and 3 kids areas (BBNP, Wiggles, CC).

[monsterfan99]

^^SFKK was also in a small (and very poor) market with 2 major competing parks and another a hour or so away. SF Great America is in the 3rd largest market with no major parks near by advertising.

[Ilovthevu']

In 2006, I have Great America at 2,620,000, but it says they lost 8% of people from 2005. So, they lost 209,600 people in a year!! That was the year (2005) they opened up the waterpark. In 2009, it says Great America is down to 2,500,000.

Going back a little further in 2003 with opening up of Superman, and no waterpark, attendance was at 2,575,000. So, going from 2003 they added Mardi Gras rides including a roller coaster, a whole waterpark plus the next year a Tornado, Revolution, Dark Knight, Buccaneer Battle, Wiggle's World, and have worse attendance from 2003. I really think those parking prices especially season pass parking are a killer along with those lockers. Of course, these numbers come from TEA. Will the new guy figure out those drive away people?

You come in to the park, and holy cow, how much money do people have to fork out for parking! Than, the locker thing is always going to rub some people the wrong way. It's seen as you are paying outrageous money for parking with really nothing in return (no tram, no monarail, no buses, crummy back lot), than you pay to get in, and than for people to ride certain rides, they make you pay additional money.

For SFKK, my favorite ride at that park was the Chance Chaos. Than, they took that out. That park stunk though for the most part. When I was there if you wanted a roller coaster, Chang was that ride, and that was about it. I did like the mouse though, but that land was pretty landlocked anyway. It was a small dinky park in which I thought why in the heck did I even come here!

[onyxhotel08]

I thought Great America was usually around the 3 million mark. 1999 & 2001 should have been great years for the park.

[sccard01]

Take a look at Kentucky Kingdom. There you have it. Without any growth, the numbers will shrink.

Right, no new rides, Every thrill ride being taken out year by year making the park shrink and shrink. And a closed section of the park with two thrill rides made it shrink more with disappointed guest. The waterpark went for boring and lame to some how popular since that was the only place in the park getting new attraction which was only 2 or 3 Tornado and deluge and I guess the lame attraction mega wedgie.

You all could get greezed Lighting you know, but I'm not sure. In 2011, Kentucky Kingdom will not open the front side of the park. Greezed Lighting sits on the front of the park. Ed Hart doesn't like the road seperating Kentucky Kingdom into two, so hes not opening the front side/kiddie side. The kids rides will be located by our roller skater, and I belived some of our rides like breakdance and enterprise will be located over on the water park side which will be open next year. I'm not sure if he will relocate Greezed Lighting however, he could scrap it or relocate it by idk.

[thedemonclown]

^i don't think it would be a wise idea to relocate a 30 year old (?) coaster back to it's homepark

[onyxhotel08]

Nobody wants GL. And I need to see a map of KK because that is weird. They have a road seperating the front of the park?

[Cole]

Maybe a smaller park could benefit from it. It would be cool if it went to like Mt. Olympus, or Holiday World for a couple years.

[thedemonclown]

Again, installing a thrity-two year old coaster will probably not be a good idea to add to any park because a of matinance and other factors. My vote is that GL is dead and gone

[onyxhotel08]

It was not very popular last I heard. It was an awesome ride in the 80's and 90's. Not so much now.

[sccard01]

Yeah, but that side of the park is the orignal Kentucky Kingdom which open in 1987. When Ed Repoened the park, he expand accross the road were he added thunder run in 1990. Later on he added rides, then T2, Chang and Twisted Twins and other thrill rides.

But Greezed Lighting could come to you all or be relocated in KK or scrap! Six Flags did take Chang out a ride Ed Hart had highly invested in and many others before the parks closure, so idk what he is willing to do.

Check out Ed Plans here, also showing you were the road is cutting through the park.
http://amusementparkauthority.com/forum ... .php?t=610

[onyxhotel08]

cool thanks

[david]

Greezed Lightning's next stop is coke cans. Which you can use to save $20 at Six Flags!

[thedemonclown]

nooooooooooo, SPRITE cans

[Ilovthevu']

In with the competition thing, you also have to remember for the waterpark's competition, you have the Dells (of course - I wonder the percentage of IL people they get??), you have the newer waterpark in Yorkville called Raging Waves, and you have Magic Waters keep on making improvements. The Six Flags waterpark isn't the only game in town for big slides, lazy river, and wavepool. Deep River Waterpark is further, but that could play a little factor too. This to me means that customer satisfaction at the waterpark is vital, or people might just go somewhere else because there are other options with similar watepark rides.

My waterpark before (besides the public pool) was really Racing Rapids that was connected to Santa's Village. Than that closed, and I went to Magic Waters, and than Six Flags came along and I like the Six Flags one, but I probably have the most complaints from that one rather than Magic Waters and Racing Rapids. To me Six Flags Great America is better because of the wavepool, but now Magic Waters has updated their wavepool, so maybe Magic Waters to me is really better. At Magic Waters, I feel they really know how to please the customer. They know what that means. They don't rip you off on lockers at Magic Waters, they have enough tubes for each slide, they have enough lifeguards for slides in regards to capacity, and to me they have the best waterslide.

[david]

^ Someone at Guest Relations upgraded four people to Season Passes for $10 each. If that's not service, I don't know what is.

[scipiomask]

Apparently, the newspaper in which Hank Salemi was quoted as saying Chang at SFGAm was canceled repealed the article and said they wrongly quoted him. I wonder what this means.

I mean, how can you misquote someone saying a ride in canceled?

[onyxhotel08]

This is all very fishy.

[bizarroboy]

Apparently, the newspaper in which Hank Salemi was quoted as saying Chang at SFGAm was canceled repealed the article and said they wrongly quoted him. I wonder what this means.

I mean, how can you misquote someone saying a ride in canceled?

The sun times? There was never a quote from salemi, they just stated things about his intentions.

[david]

They said they made a mistake with the name. They said that Salemi was discussing Chang, but it was really Jennifer Savage. The PR lady.

[Luxornv]

Greezed Lightning's next stop is coke cans. Which you can use to save $20 at Six Flags!

Coke cans are made out of aluminum. Coaster tracks are made from steel. Thanks for trying though.