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Postby bbd on September 4th, 2016, 7:47 pm
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bbd wrote:I think they will build more skyrockets or LSM launches b/c there are not many cheap coasters available. The reason they are building 4D's is b/c they are cheap. SF is no longer interests it seems in building the 15M or more coasters. That's why I don;t expect to see any dives coming b/c they are very expensive, the ones Busch built were 16M and Valravn was more than that. LOl. I lobe the logic of not knowing you like not knowing after waiting line if you will get a bad ride...few flips. Btw, I rode it more than once, different spots and it sucked equally each time. It's just a bad gimmick ride period. Great marketing by S&S on a poor ride.


Regarding the launched coasters, Full Throttle was only $6 million as previously said by someone else. Maybe the smaller park's would receive Sky Rockets? That or another launch coaster gimmick.


The cost of Skyrcokets and LSM(Full throttel) are the same. The big difference is the space needed for skyrockets and the capacity. A skyrocket could fit in the space of say Demon, while Full Throttle wouldn't. Smaller capacity would mean huge lines at the busier parks for skyrockets., if that was a concern of SF, but that's probably not high on their concern list.
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Postby JaminOut on September 4th, 2016, 8:28 pm
^Or that's why the aren't building them...

Sky Rocket could fit into V2's spot, while a altered FT could fit Demons spot and follow service road along Eagle.


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Postby anewman35 on September 4th, 2016, 8:30 pm
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anewman35 wrote:Six Flags DOESN'T CARE about variety. If a 4D and a launched coaster cost the same, and their research says the local people in each park would like the 4D better, it would be 4Ds in every park (like it was). All the people who keep saying that it would be better if Six Flags did X or Y or Z need to explain WHO it would be better for. It would be more interesting as a fan, sure, but they doesn't mean it would be in the corporation's best interest.


Six Flags cares more about variety than you think. It's not so much variety across the chain, but variety within the parks. None of our coasters have they same appeal, and that includes The Joker. You can even throw in Ragin' Cajun, Iron Wolf, Deja Vu, and Shockwave. Each coaster is unique in that it doesn't do the same thing as another coaster in the park.


Yeah, sorry, I should clarify that I meant variety between parks. They don't care if every park has the same rides, because most people don't go to multiple parks. But they do generally give each park lots of different rides.
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Postby Mean Streaker on September 4th, 2016, 8:55 pm
RollingCoasting wrote:Not everything you hear on an enthusiast site, especially a "New Rides" topic will happen


Lol remember when someone said they might replace SWT with Poltergeist from SFFT?
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Postby Guy_With_A_Stick on September 4th, 2016, 9:00 pm
Guess who your talking to? ;)

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Postby Mean Streaker on September 4th, 2016, 9:10 pm
Guy_With_A_Stick wrote:Guess who your talking to? ;)

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Oh that was you? Lol

I kinda wished that would've happened.
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Postby RollingCoasting on September 4th, 2016, 9:12 pm
I didn't say it would happen. Coaster Cale said the rumor, I liked it, even though I knew it wasn't that likely, so I got a bunch of our new members to believe it. :D
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Postby Mean Streaker on September 4th, 2016, 9:59 pm
RollingCoasting wrote:I didn't say it would happen. Coaster Cale said the rumor, I liked it, even though I knew it wasn't that likely, so I got a bunch of our new members to believe it. :D


I thought it was one of the more ridiculous rumors I've heard about any park but it was a pretty funny rumor.
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Postby JaminOut on September 4th, 2016, 10:50 pm
RollingCoasting wrote:I didn't say it would happen. Coaster Cale said the rumor, I liked it, even though I knew it wasn't that likely, so I got a bunch of our new members to believe it. :D


Myself included lol
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Postby stergmi on September 5th, 2016, 12:13 am
Guy_With_A_Stick wrote:Guess who your talking to? ;)

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Ha! I had the same thought a year ago too before I found my way to this board

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Postby bbd on September 6th, 2016, 6:07 pm
Find it interesting that SF gave LaRonde a Zamperla Giant Discovery in 2017 when they already had a Zamperla Discovery(model with arms and not disk). They are the same ride concept, a pendulum just with different seating arrangement, a disk instead of arms. I wonder if they will move the Discovery to another park. La Ronde to Escape would be the shortest distance and Escape rarely gets good rides. They have gotten waterpark things 2 of the last 3 years. The other year was a larson rloop A Discovery would be pretty good ride for them. Of course there always is AM, which gets relocations frequently.
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Postby RollingCoasting on September 6th, 2016, 6:25 pm
bbd wrote: La Ronde to Escape would be the shortest distance and Escape rarely gets good rides. A Discovery would be pretty good ride for them. Of course there always is AM, which gets relocations frequently.


I mean it's not like Great Escape just got a Discovery or anything
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Postby bbd on September 6th, 2016, 6:41 pm
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bbd wrote: La Ronde to Escape would be the shortest distance and Escape rarely gets good rides. A Discovery would be pretty good ride for them. Of course there always is AM, which gets relocations frequently.


I mean it's not like Great Escape just got a Discovery or anything
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwZW4RQq4qg



I forgot they got the small Discovery. in 2014. Still, the notion La Ronde will have a Discovery and Giant Discovery would be odd.
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Postby RollingCoasting on September 6th, 2016, 7:05 pm
True, Six Flags has made a ton of odd decisions for La Ronde. A Vekoma SLC and a B&M invert, 2 Discoveries, 2 or 3 Carousels, etc.
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Postby Coaster Justin on September 7th, 2016, 5:59 am
Six Flags could've saved a few bucks by not buying Spinsanity and just moving the smaller Discovery from La Ronde to Six Flags St. Louis


I'll bet the Huss Frisbee at SFDK will be scrapped.
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Postby bbd on September 7th, 2016, 8:37 am
Coaster Justin wrote:Six Flags could've saved a few bucks by not buying Spinsanity and just moving the smaller Discovery from La Ronde to Six Flags St. Louis


I'll bet the Huss Frisbee at SFDK will be scrapped.


Didn't notice till mentioned DK has a Huss Frisbee and are getting a Zamperla Discovery in2017. They might not scrap it and relocate it to MM. The Huss was installed in '99 and SFNE has a '99 installed Huss, MM don't have a Huss or Discovery. It would be like a 300 mile relocate. The LaRonde small Discovery could maybe go to Am. I hope we eventually get a Discovery, but the Revolution one that goes upside down.
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Postby Coaster Justin on September 7th, 2016, 2:34 pm
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Coaster Justin wrote:Six Flags could've saved a few bucks by not buying Spinsanity and just moving the smaller Discovery from La Ronde to Six Flags St. Louis


I'll bet the Huss Frisbee at SFDK will be scrapped.


Didn't notice till mentioned DK has a Huss Frisbee and are getting a Zamperla Discovery in2017. They might not scrap it and relocate it to MM. The Huss was installed in '99 and SFNE has a '99 installed Huss, MM don't have a Huss or Discovery. It would be like a 300 mile relocate. The LaRonde small Discovery could maybe go to Am. I hope we eventually get a Discovery, but the Revolution one that goes upside down.



I'm betting it will be scrapped. Most Huss attractions these days are
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Postby bbd on September 7th, 2016, 2:59 pm
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bbd wrote:
Coaster Justin wrote:Six Flags could've saved a few bucks by not buying Spinsanity and just moving the smaller Discovery from La Ronde to Six Flags St. Louis


I'll bet the Huss Frisbee at SFDK will be scrapped.


Didn't notice till mentioned DK has a Huss Frisbee and are getting a Zamperla Discovery in2017. They might not scrap it and relocate it to MM. The Huss was installed in '99 and SFNE has a '99 installed Huss, MM don't have a Huss or Discovery. It would be like a 300 mile relocate. The LaRonde small Discovery could maybe go to Am. I hope we eventually get a Discovery, but the Revolution one that goes upside down.



I'm betting it will be scrapped. Most Huss attractions these days are


HUSS has made some of my favorite flat rides of all time...UFO, Ranger, and Pirate. The new redesigned HUSS Enterprise 2G/2GH/2GH plus look good. Wouldn't mind the park getting one.
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Postby Guy_With_A_Stick on September 7th, 2016, 3:31 pm
I do think HUSS is falling behind quite a bit. Zamperla's alternatives are better in almost every way(Giant Discovery > Giant Frisbee, Endeavour > Enterprise G2, etc.). Not to mention that Zamperla is significantly cheaper than Huss.
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Postby bbd on September 7th, 2016, 4:05 pm
Guy_With_A_Stick wrote:I do think HUSS is falling behind quite a bit. Zamperla's alternatives are better in almost every way(Giant Discovery > Giant Frisbee, Endeavour > Enterprise G2, etc.). Not to mention that Zamperla is significantly cheaper than Huss.


Zamperla dominates the pendulum market is seems with the Discovery models Huss or Mondial. Giant Discoveries are 5-6M from what I have read. I like the Endeavor and the Enterprise G2, especially the Plus model. Never seen price on G2, just out as a redesign in 2015.

Zamperla does have a nice list of rides.Would be thrilled to get a flat ride package of Discovery, Endeavor, and Hawk. I have seen Hawks reported costing 3M. Don't know what Endeavour's go for, guessing about 3M too. 2 year flat pkg...Discovery 1 yr and Endeavour with Hawk next...6M+ cost each year.

What do you think of the Gmbh Sky Roller and Sky Fly? I think those would also be unique as only like 2 parks in North America have them. Also, the rider can control inverts. Sky Fly is below 2M and Sky Roller 2-3M. They could be cost effective flat that are somewhat unique to the US.
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Postby staticshadows on September 7th, 2016, 5:43 pm
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Postby Tardis1972 on September 8th, 2016, 9:47 am
I noticed that as well.
I think it's a shame that Six Flags isn't working with Gerstlauer anymore. It would be nice to see another Euro Fighter or the first Infinity Coaster in one of the smaller parks.
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Postby Mean Streaker on September 8th, 2016, 5:47 pm
If Six Flags won't work with Gertslauer or Intamin we're going to see a lot more clones.
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Postby stergmi on September 8th, 2016, 9:43 pm
Mean Streaker wrote:If Six Flags won't work with Gertslauer or Intamin we're going to see a lot more clones.

I get why Intamin is persona non grata in the States. But what happened with Gertslauer

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Postby jmanporty7 on September 8th, 2016, 9:48 pm
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Mean Streaker wrote:If Six Flags won't work with Gertslauer or Intamin we're going to see a lot more clones.

I get why Intamin is persona non grata in the States. But what happened with Gertslauer

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