Just wanted to pass this along. The Gurnee Zoning Board of Appeals meeting for April has been canceled.
VILLAGE OF GURNEE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS MEETING CANCELLATION NOTICE
The regularly scheduled meeting of the Gurnee Zoning Board of Appeals slated for Wednesday, April 28, 2010 has been canceled.
The next scheduled Zoning Board of Appeals meeting is Wednesday, May 26, 2010 beginning at 7:30 P.M. at the Gurnee Village Hall, 325 North O’Plaine Road.
It takes more time than that. They have to get it into the board by May/June the latest. Six Flags will most likely start work on Chang here or somewhere in September before the temperatures drop and bad weather begins. SSA is gone & not sure but if they build Chang in the parking lot they would have to tear down Pictorium?
Pictorium will most likely not go anywhere. There are plenty of ways to get Chang in there without removing Pictorium. Removing a building as big as Pictorium would be expensive. Expensive enough that California's Great America designed a GCI wooden Coaster to go around Pictorium when their Pictorium hasn't been used in 10 years.
david wrote:I see. Well, As long as it's cost efficient and a fun ride, I'm in for whatever is removed, just as long as it's not another coaster.
I'm so confused with this mobile site... Is no one HONESTLY postin comments or pics on the funstruction sign up in SSA spot??!! I took like 50pics of that damn sign! Haha that was not there last saturday!! Haha I'm like a little kid. Haha its gonna be Thomas town jk. David, I agree btw. Haha. I couldn't post a comment without quoting someone
ahah Yes, I did point out the funstruction banner in my trip report, I'm thinking Water Park expansion. if they really wanted to, they would have blocked off the area of the parking lot that they want to use to. Why keep that for later. I'm personally surprised They've already announced that something is coming spring 2011. I just hope that it isn't a water park expansion, because our Hurricane Harbor seems just fine, although something Deluge style could fit good there...
#1 They blocked off SSA area because unlike the parking lot that area is not in use now and is just dirt.
#2 Spring 2011 should not mean anything to do with Hurricane Harbor since it opens last weekend in May. May consider Memorial Day Weekend the start of summer.
#3 They cannot do anything major with Chang until they get approved. Land prep and all that will not start earlier than late summer. IF Chang does show up.
#4 We have a good # of water rides and HH is still only 5 years old. Do we need an expansion now just for one more ride? Great Adventure is JUST getting Tornado!
That was found by a member of the Keep Kentucky Kingdom group, and it seems that CHANG is currently being held at Maxim Crane company. No real details yet, but this doesn't look to good.
It's simple, Six Flags Inc. owns the piece of land that Chang sits on. Six Flags, owns Chang, because it sits on Six Flags property, SO ANYTHING ON SIX FLAGS PROPERTY IS SIX FLAGS PROPERTY, IS THIS SO HARD FAIR BOARD?!?!?!?!?!?
I don't see why this is so hard. Does anyone know when this is entering court?
Sorry for the rant, I just can't believe that the fair board is going to hold up Six Flags from doing what they want with their property.
Six Flags and KK have been quite as of late. maybe we just have no room and they want to wait till we get the OK from the board? Nobody expected construction to begin now anyway. Why is it in some crane company is beyond me but again I'm sure SF has their bases covered. As long as St.Louis does not have it I'm not worried.
Chang will NOT become sit down/floorless whatever for 2011. End of story.
Maxim is the company that helped take Chang down last year. They have a warehouse in front of Kentucky Kingdom but their crane yard is in Wilder Ky, approximately 1 1/2 hours from the park.
Uumm..I hate to bust your bubble, but Six Flags did have to get permission from the fair board in order to move Chang. This leads to the assumption that the fair board did own Chang in some shape, form, or other commodity.
While yes they did say they would build Bonazi Beach for 2011, the board simply did not want a ride taken out and replaced with nothing. So, possibly hoping to nix SFKK altogether soon, Six Flags came up with plans all the while thinking their time in KK was almost up. Six Flags owned majority of the land Chang sat on and paid taxes on it. I'm sure neither party wants to go to court over a ride when SFKK is still without a new operator anway. Any ride Six Flags wanted to take out/bring in had to get approved by board. Chang was no exception.
Those are all very valid points, although I do believe that if Six Flags took Chang under a false promise of a water park expansion the Fair Board could sue them for fraud. Either way Chang will probably end up going to Six Flags.It's an ok ride, but i do not really see the big hype over a 12 year old stand up. It just makes me frustrated when people come on here with statments that are one sided and ill informed.
How can they prove Six Flags never intended to replace Chang? They reportedly did present plans for Bonzai Beach and even had ads for it around the area when Chang was coming down. What false pretenses?
onyxhotel08 wrote:#1 They blocked off SSA area because unlike the parking lot that area is not in use now and is just dirt.
#2 Spring 2011 should not mean anything to do with Hurricane Harbor since it opens last weekend in May. May consider Memorial Day Weekend the start of summer.
#3 They cannot do anything major with Chang until they get approved. Land prep and all that will not start earlier than late summer. IF Chang does show up.
#4 We have a good # of water rides and HH is still only 5 years old. Do we need an expansion now just for one more ride? Great Adventure is JUST getting Tornado!
To #2, Spring goes into June. Just ask Universal Orlando who is opening Harry Potter in the spring time on June 18th or so.
The reason Six Flags had to ask the Fair Board for removal, is because The Fair Board lists in the contract that they MUST replace anything they remove from the park, and they MUST ask permission first. The Fair Board cannot prove that Six Flags wasn't going to replace Chang with Bonzai Beach.
onyxhotel08 wrote:How can they prove Six Flags never intended to replace Chang? They reportedly did present plans for Bonzai Beach and even had ads for it around the area when Chang was coming down. What false pretenses?
Ok look, I know Im sort of off subject but I used to work at Six Flags Kentucky Kingdom and I used to attend the park when I was a infant in the 1990s before the park was Six Flags Kentucky Kingdom. Kentucky Kingdom is a changed park, when it had became Six Flags, everything was good! but after the first couple of years attendance has declined, no new rides have been added or major thrill rides, and all rides are in the park were in poor rusting conditions including the scenery, the park has gotten dirty, it used to be one of our nations cleanest park, and It's the same park that has been sitting since ed hart has sold the park to Six Flags. Our park used to make just about 20,000 visitors every saturday in the summer, and about 15,000 on fridays nights filled when teenagers clubing at five day alive before Six Flags took over. Six Flags gotten rid of it because they thought it gave the park a bad rep! and the made attendance drop of fridays. We used to get a new coaster/thrill ride every year in the 90's before it was six flags and that kept the park alive.
When you own a park, use are supposed to take care of it like any other park. Im not sure how Six Flags Great America is one of the most cleanest parks in the Six Flags Chain from what I've heard (rides are maintaind and etc). Not more then 90 percent of your rides or rusted, in poor conditions, and all of your food stands or maintained, and your food prices are much reasonable then Six Flags Kentucky Kingdom. Our Prices had inclined when our park went under the Six Flags name. A slice of Pizza is like $9.00 at Six Flags Kentucky Kingdom, it used to be a buck before Six Flags took over.
When Chang was announced to be torn down, everyone was in Shock! We were all somewhat excited about Bozani Beach! but we all didn't want Chang to go! Why would you take out your best ride (Chang) out the park, that was the only ride keeping visitors comming to Kentucky Kingdom since Six Flags had token out many of our rides and haven't replaced anything of them over the past decade! In 2001 Six Flags tooken out 4 rides and sent them off to Geagua Lake or SFWA. None of those 4 rides have been replaced. After chang was torn down, our park sent out those ads of the Bonzai Beach not Six Flags! None of us knew that Six Flags was closing our park! We all thought our park was still going to be open for 2011 and beyond that! Not even the park President or other managment in the park new anything of the park closing!
I also know the the State Fair Bored had aggreed to the water park exspansion to tear down Chang for the water park, but, Six Flags made a promise of approvements to the State Fair Board in the place where chang once stood!
Do you all think that it will cost more money to give or build a new water park exspanion to a park that you once had, or give back a ride back and rebuild it? A ride that Six Flags didn't even add to the park?
A slice of Pizza is like $9.00 at Six Flags Kentucky Kingdom, it used to be a buck before Six Flags took over.
Hate to burst your bubble buddy, but a pizza combo at Great America is $10.
We used to get a new coaster/thrill ride every year in the 90's before it was six flags and that kept the park alive.
Kentucky Kingdom was a "bad-egg" and it was undertaken with the old management that was just buy-buy-buy. Your park was one of the worst, in quality, theming, and profits. Which is most likely why you guys haven't gotten a new addition to the dry park.
Im not sure how Six Flags Great America is one of the most cleanest parks in the Six Flags Chain from what I've heard (rides are maintaind and etc).
Our park is clean, but I don't think it's the cleanest, as Magic mountain is the anointed park.
Why would you take out your best ride (Chang) out the park, that was the only ride keeping visitors comming to Kentucky Kingdom since Six Flags had token out many of our rides and haven't replaced anything of them over the past decade!
Welcome to the party! We have three empty spots in the park. It's not fun, But as I said before, the park wasn't the best in the chain.
Do you all think that it will cost more money to give or build a new water park exspanion to a park that you once had, or give back a ride back and rebuild it? A ride that Six Flags didn't even add to the park?
It is far better to add something NEW, rather than something old. The water park was the only thing bringing people to Kentucky Kingdom. You can't seriously tell me people go to Kentucky JUST to ride Chang. The park had problems, and to Shapiro, the best way to solve these problems was to just leave the park.
Kentucky Kingdom was a "bad-egg" and it was undertaken with the old management that was just buy-buy-buy. Your park was one of the worst, in quality, theming, and profits. Which is most likely why you guys haven't gotten a new addition to the dry park.
Kentucky Kingdom wasn't a bad egg? You must be confused with Kentucky Kingdom and Six Flags Kentucky Kingdom. When the park was KK We used to make over 1million visitors in the year 1997/98. Our old managment ed hart, thought it would be better for the park to be in Premeir's hands because our park has grown so quickly and was very popular at the time and was very advance and ready to go on the next level.
Welcome to the party! We have three empty spots in the park. It's not fun, But as I said before, the park wasn't the best in the chain.
You all and other park besides SFA and us get new rides every now and then to your dry side, Our Park hasn't seen a brand new ride in years, Greezed Lightin isn't really considered a new ride to many because its from another six flags park and is over 30 years of age. We have just about 9 blank empty spots btw. None have been replaced.
It is far better to add something NEW, rather than something old. The water park was the only thing bringing people to Kentucky Kingdom. You can't seriously tell me people go to Kentucky JUST to ride Chang. The park had problems, and to Shapiro, the best way to solve these problems was to just leave the park.
Most people the has visited our park care more for the Amusment Park area. After the STOP accident, Six Flags closed off Twisted Twins and Mile High Falls! The water park was the only part of the park that added something new! It really wasnt popular until Six Flags redone the water park. If Six Flags would have added a coaster or new rides, even a thomas town, our amusment side would have improved. But taken out your best ride would make your park fail and die.
^^ok. 1. Our park has always been better attendance and quality then yours, yes, even in your "glory days"
2. If raging bull, v2, and batman were taken out, our park would still be high attendence. Look what happens to yours when your top atractions are removed.
Face it. Our park was and always will be better then yours. Sorry.
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