Hurricane Horbor Pricing.

[coasterinsane]

While taling about hurricane harbor, what is up with all the dirt piles that were brought in yesterday? You can clearly see that there is order to where they put them on the cam. Are they just filling in holes? Or just making hills? or blah?
Yeah, thats what i think, BlAh.

[planea380]

I am with Chitown on this, Most revune at parks is from inpark sales. BY using in park sales, they can easily reagin that amount. Only if the can come up with some good products for a water park. By including that they can sell towels by Splash Water Falls which can get them a little extra $.

[SFGA 11]

By including that they can sell towels by Splash Water Falls which can get them a little extra $.

That would be nice.They used to do that in the mid/late 90's. I remember always seeing a line for them so I'm guessing they were good sellers.

[sfgam]

They still can be profitable by 2006. If they charge $40 for the water park, and $40 for the regular park, and 100 people visit the water park and 200 visit the regular park, they will make the same if they charge $40 for both together. But if they charge for both together it will get the same 300 people to come, and might make more people come because instead of going to the dells and paying $40 for just a water park, they can pay $40 for a water park and an amusement park.

[Shockwave8802]

Ye, Its one of the only smart moves six flags has every made.

[coasterinsane]

While taling about hurricane harbor, what is up with all the dirt piles that were brought in yesterday? You can clearly see that there is order to where they put them on the cam. Are they just filling in holes? Or just making hills? or blah?
Yeah, thats what i think, BlAh.

Eh hem....

[w00dland]

Hmm, I think they are strategically positioning the piles of dirt for tonight's snow storm so they can go sledding tomorrow.

[StealthNet]

They will make their money back. SFGam currently does a little over 3 million a year in attendance. By raising admission $4 per ticket (and season pass prices as well), that will be at least $5 million in extra revenue this year just on ticket sales/season passes (not $12 million because season pass holders who visit multiple times are in that 3 million attendance figure.) This is not even considering the attendance spike this waterpark will generate....

Then there is the additional revenue from concessions and lockers as previously pointed out. In addition, SFGAm also has a yearly capital expenditure budget which is seperate from this extra revenue flow. Maybe not profitable by 2006, but by the end of 2008 they should have recouped their costs.

Four years to recoup the costs on a $35 million project which will please millions of people and adds to the park's value is not too bad, eh?

[FParker185]

Actually, the park hasnt seen near 3 million people since Demon was built/TOC modifyed (3 million was always their goal, I dont think they ever reached it, though 1980 they had like 2.9 mil). This year attendance was 2,300,000, which ranks SFGAm #46 worldwide and 25'th amongst North American parks, and is steady from last year's number., which is actually really good considering the disaster of a spring Gurnee had and an attendence price increase.


While I think SFHH will still be seperate gate, I do agree it will be profitable within 2 years if not less with all the in park revenue and any possible attendance spike.

[technop]

[technop]

[FParker185]

Seperate gate traditionally means the parks are not connected (at least not for free). I suspect there will be a path within SFGAm for those with combo tickets/passes, but SFHH is just to big to be included within the price of regular park admission, even with a price hike.

[technop]

[w00dland]

Six Flags Magic Mountain had an entrance plaza that was sort of inside the park and had the entrance to the park on one said and the entrance to HH on the other.

[technop]

[DejaVu The Ride]

You don't know what you're saying. You've had three different arguments over Hurricane Harbor and how it will be incorporated with SfGam. Why don't you just wait until you hear the truth from a park official. That's the best way to know. (And a security guard doesn't count.)

[technop]

So i noticed on OUR site. it says Season passes include hurricane harbor. but nothing about the 1 day tickets including hurricane harbor. are we sure a 1 day ticket will include hurricane harbor?

Maybe it will be 2 seperate admission. but if you have a season pass you get both free.

maybe thats there way of saying. IF YOU WANT TO GET INTO BOTH FREE. buy a season pass.

I think thats a good marketing stragedy. offer HH free with a season pass will get more people to buy a season pass? dont you think? i thinkso.

P.S. I have a right to express my opinion and thats what im doing. fell free to down my opinion.

[technop]

and? im just trying to throw out some idea's sorry if my freedom to express my opinion doesnt work here.

[sixflagsguy5]

I think that they haven't decided yet, because they are keeping it so if you buy your season pass early, you get a waterpark pass free. But maybe their going to keep selling it that way until they decide if they're combining the two. Because if they sell a combo season pass for full price, and then they make it so the two parks are combined, then people will want their money back.

[DejaVu The Ride]

and? im just trying to throw out some idea's sorry if my freedom to express my opinion doesnt work here.

The problem is that much of your opinion is from a security guard. I didn't say your opinion was wrong, but that you should just wait now until we know for sure. I didn't mean to be rude.

[SFGA Bob]

pushing season pass sales can be tricky. technop's logic is correct that if the park includes waterpark admission for season passes, but not 1 day tickets, it will push forward season pass sales. this works to the park's advantage only if the people buying the pass show up two times or less. otherwise, the park is driving a product that is stealing money from them.

[technop]

i know, and for the record the past 5 entries have had nothing to do with a security guard

[DejaVu The Ride]

Gosh, why am I in the argumentive mood lately?

Ok, technop, for the longest time, you keep on saying that the security guard said this, and the security guard said that. It changed more than once. You made your opinion based off of what you heard from her. It may not have been stated in the last 5 entries, but it's always the 6th that will bite you in the leg.

[Chitown]

I am sure we will know the answer to this question this Saturday when NoCoasterCon takes place.

That question will definitely come up.