New park G.M. is named

[BMRider]

If you want to know why Deja Vu is closed atleast try to ask Guest Relations. You might get a hint to the real reason.

[Chitown]

If you wan't to believe what the sign says and what GR tells you , go right ahead and be gullible.

I, along with others, know the real reason why it has been closed.

[BMRider]

Like how everyone knows why it breaks down alot. I know how the park operates. I know how the ride operates. I worked there in 2002. I'm not gullible I have experience with the ride.

[SFGA Bob]

do you really think the employees care what sign they put up to tell people that the ride is closed? as long as people get they message that it is closed, who cares what sign is up?

[BMRider]

They cared this summer when the"This ride will not open today" sign was put up at V2, King Chaos, Cajin, and Deja Vu. They didnt put up the tempoary sign if they knew it was being closed all day.
Park Management cares what sign is up. I can't tell you how many times in 2002 when we switched from the tempoary sign to the closed for the day sign. They even had signs up informing what time the ride will be open on certain days.

But to get back on topic I dont think the new GM has been to the park yet. The article says that he will not leave NE til the end of their season.

[Ilovthevu']

Yes, basically the park doesn't have a sign for staffing issues, but the temporary and this ride will be closed all day are the ones that make up for it. For this past Saturday, it had to be weather conditions early on because it opened later after the rain.

For Friday, I would have to believe that they don't have enough people either because not many people want to work on that day, or because they don't expect a crazy packed crowd.

Someone said that it was closed two weeks ago on Saturday, and my guess would be because the wind was nuts that day (I thought I heard 30 m.p.h). I was outside for 4 and 1/2 hours at a football game, and I can tell you that the wind was terrible.

Everything needs to be perfect for D Vu to work because it relies on speed and timing. Rain and strong wind can disrupt both of these. Who cares about cold? Those heaters were nice at night this past weekend.

[Chitown]

I don't give a rat's ass if someone worked at the park in 2002. Heck, I worked at the park in the late 80's. Does that make me an expert?

I have spoken with people that are in the know currently working at the park and the reason DV was closed was due to staffing.

Accept it and understand it.

[InsaneNewman]

Be thankful that we have such great signs... at SFStL, they don't put out signs at all... they just move a garbage can in front of the line (at least, all the closed rides that I saw).... it's terrible to tell what's going on!

[CoasterDave316]

Heh, at the old SFWoA they didn't even put a trash can in front of the line. You could walk into line and stand there for 10 minutes before you realized the ride was broken down. No announcements, or signs. At least during my visit, not sure if this was the norm.

[punkbunny24242]

Wow.. that's all I can say. Some people are funny.

[Mr. SFGAm]

Heh, at the old SFWoA they didn't even put a trash can in front of the line. You could walk into line and stand there for 10 minutes before you realized the ride was broken down. No announcements, or signs. At least during my visit, not sure if this was the norm.

It's the same at Kings Island. When a ride breaks down, there is no announcement, or closing of the entrance. They just continue to let the line fill up.
At least that's how it was last Labor Day.

[w00dland]

At Magic Mountain if a ride was closed for the day there would just be trashcans in the entrance. The only reason they would have a greeter is if X broke down. Usually at SFGAm they will have a greeter if a ride is only running one train, at SFMM half there rides were running one train and there wasn't one person telling anyone.

[DejaVu The Ride]

SfGam doesn't always have a greeter for 1 train op. Only for certain circumstances.(ig slow days and DejaVu/V2.)

[w00dland]

I've had a greeter when Batman and S:UF went into one train operations. Never had another expierence with one train at SFGAm.

[Moo]

Sorry if this is a little late, but why did Black leave? Didn't he just come to Great America last year? That was fast, and he was doing a good job... Or am I thinking of someone else?

[Danhockey04]

Weather does not affect Deja Vu from opening, the only reason it is closed is because of staffing. There is also another reason that they do not like running it in the cold, it miscatches more often in the severe cold, and it can run in the rain, but they don't run it. The main reason for the closure is staffing because you have to be 18 to work Deja Vu and only a few people are certified to run it.

[BMRider]

Then why didnt they run Deja Vu in the summer when they had all the staffing they needed on raining days? There is a reason why that ride cant run in rain.
Why do you have to be 18 to work Deja Vu? It is no different from any other ride in the park. I bet if you ask the crew today half of them are under 18. Half of my crewmembers in 2002 were under 18. Yet again another person who doesnt work at the park who assume he knows all about Deja Vu.

[Danhockey04]

I heard that Deja Vu isnt certified to run in the rain. Also, I was told that you have to be 18 to work Deja Vu when I went in, but I am sure there are people under 18 working it.

[DejaVu The Ride]

The ride is a very sensitive piece of equipment.(Sort of how Tim Black said it.) With that said, I believe the 18 and over rule was instated recently if it has been instated at all, because I have seen 'kids' under 18 running the ride.

[FParker185]

It cant run in the rain due to wheel issues.

On the vertial track the wheels loose contact with the track frequently, so when the train drops, on a dry track there is enough friction when ithe wheel does contact the rail it will get the wheel spinning by the time it lands at the bottom of the spike, and when the weight of the train is put on the wheels they will spin and work normally. When the track is wet, there is not enough friction and the wheel tends to slide instead of spin and at the bottom of the spike the weight of the train is suddenly on non spinning wheels, and they tend to slide instead of roll and that causes quite alot of damage to the wheel treads. And with wheels being in the $500-$1000 range each, you can see why they'd much rather not run it when it's raining.

Also, alot of the higher speed Arrow/Vekoma coasters had/have the same problem. (really any coaster with wheels that are not tensioned to the track tend to have problems with that.

Also DV can not run when it's cold (I believe either 50 or 55 is the set temperature where it can be run, or at least started up, once it's running, it can be run in any temperature. Also with the heaters they installed in the station, the min temp may be lower, though i have rarely seen them running it if the high for the day is, or is forcased, to be below around 50.

Havent heard about the over 18 rule, but i know they will close DV to get an extra person at Bull to be able to run 3 trains when needed. DV has been closed most of fright fest for Staffing reasons(though I'm sure the weather had alot to do with it the second weekend).

[Galvan]

Deja Vu was closed for staffing, period.

[RagingBullFan]

It was closed for staffing, like everyone else has said....

About the 18 Ride operator.. Illinois state law right now requires a operator to be at least 16 years of age at the time of this writing.

http://www.house.gov/markey/Issues/iss_ ... 040423.pdf

If that passes, everyone will have to be 18, or unless Illinois changes its laws, its going to stay 16.