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SFGAmWorld Poll: Re-locations how do you count them?

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Relocations

New Credit
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Not a New Credit
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Total votes : 55

Postby Galvan on November 12th, 2013, 7:03 pm
When A ride is relocated, how do you count them? Are they new credits? whats your take?


For me, if the ride has been relocated to a new park, I consider it a new credit. As Technically speaking, that ride while relocated has been added as a new attraction to said park.

I don't however consider Backwards coasters as new credits, although an argument can be made about that actually being a new credit as well.

So what do you think?

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Postby Ace on November 12th, 2013, 7:20 pm
Its the same ride. If its the same ride its the same credit. Seems pretty straight forward to me.
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Postby Sharon29060 on November 12th, 2013, 7:21 pm
In my opinion, it's not a new credit. Because it's still the same ride but just in a different location. But if there were changes to the ride such as new inversions, hills, etc.. added, then yes, I would consider it as a new credit.
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Postby Galvan on November 12th, 2013, 7:22 pm
I consider it a new credit since it is new to that location, and usually has a new name as well.
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Postby monsterfan99 on November 12th, 2013, 7:24 pm
Ace wrote:Its the same ride. If its the same ride its the same credit. Seems pretty straight forward to me.

Agreed, This would also make every time a travelling coaster runs a brand new credit.

I wouldn't even count changes in the track, except for major rebuilds, as a new credit. Texas Giant before and after, sure. Son of Beast before and after the loop, no.
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Postby x-flight on November 12th, 2013, 7:25 pm
Same credit. I agree with sharon if it adds a different element to the ride then yes but movibg the same exact ride same credit

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Postby reptar on November 12th, 2013, 8:06 pm
Kind of like a used car

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Postby Coaster Justin on November 12th, 2013, 8:28 pm
Depends if I've ridden it or not. Aftershock at Silverwood would not be a new credit to me. But if Goliath from SFNE got relocated here, I'd count that as I've never ridden it.
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Postby w00dland on November 30th, 2013, 1:46 am
Same ride, same credit. Yeah, X2 got some paint and fire, but that doesn't make it any newer of a coaster than Iron Wolf turned Apocalypse at SFA.
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Postby GoBears on November 30th, 2013, 10:18 am
Sharon29060 wrote:In my opinion, it's not a new credit. Because it's still the same ride but just in a different location. But if there were changes to the ride such as new inversions, hills, etc.. added, then yes, I would consider it as a new credit.


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Postby BBH on November 30th, 2013, 11:07 am
Same ride, same layout, different location, same credit.
Same ride, different layout, regardless of location, new credit.
Same ride, backwards cars, regardless of location, same credit.
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Postby Jerrykoala2112 on December 15th, 2013, 6:09 pm
I count is as new because I consider a different location the factor that plays in to call it a new credit. Different surroundings leads to a new ride experience. I've been on Flying Coaster at Elitch Gardens and then rode it again when it got moved to Coney Island (which is right on the beach) and I still consider it 2 separate credits.
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Postby scottydoesknow on December 20th, 2013, 4:21 am
Back when I did keep a credit list I would count them as one. While I understand the argument that the location plays a large roll on the ride (I can't help but think of Batman: Knight Flight's relocation removing water as an example), I just happen to disagree.
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Postby tp41190 on April 7th, 2014, 1:38 pm
Same coaster. I don't agree with the whole "new soundings" argument. If that were the case, then you could consider Spacely Sprocket Rockets a new coaster because it will be sounded by Goliath now. Technically it could be 3 separate credits:
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Postby onyxhotel08 on June 20th, 2014, 9:48 pm
it is a new ride technically even if it is over 20 years old....so yeah I would consider it a new credit. iron Wolf is dead. Gone. It is Apocalypse now.
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Postby skibum101184 on June 26th, 2014, 9:32 am
I count it as a new credit. While Iron Wolf was at SFGAm for 20 years then moved to SF America, SF America still gained one coaster from the deal. While it may not be a 'new' coaster, it's new to them and adds to their coaster count. Same goes for Goliath at SFNE, while it was a relocated coaster, it still added to their count and is new to them.
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Postby VuDooJoey on July 2nd, 2014, 6:52 pm
I count it as a new credit for the most part. If it's a traveling coaster, I count it as the same, or one was was built identical as is (Ragin' Cajun, for example). However, if it's one that provides a new experience, then I count it as new. Apocolypse at SFA I consider as new, because when I rode it as Iron Wolf I didn't get all that theming before which changes my experience. That, to me, is a new credit.
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Postby Guy_With_A_Stick on July 2nd, 2014, 7:43 pm
Traveling coaster: no
Clone: yes
Relocation: If it has much more theming or is indoors, yes. If its the same, no. Example, Iron Wolf/Apocalypse is. Ragin Cajun is not.

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Postby BBH on July 2nd, 2014, 8:59 pm
I've never understood why people don't count clones. It's a different coaster entirely, so it should be a new credit, no?

I also don't think at all that relocations should be new credits. I follow the formula above: new coaster entirely, new credit.
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Postby sfgam-fan on July 4th, 2014, 10:52 pm
New coaster, new credit. Even if it's a clone.

Used coaster, no credit, unless the ride itself has been substantially changed. New theming, surroundings, minor elements, and re-tracking shouldn't count, but if major changes were made to the ride elements from start to finish (Texas Giant, Iron Rattler) then it's as good as a new ride in my opinion.
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Postby Ace on October 5th, 2014, 2:46 pm
How do you guys count rides with different sides ie space mountain american eagle or primevil whirl. I count them as different but I am curious what everybody else thinks.
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Postby Sharon29060 on October 5th, 2014, 3:07 pm
^I count American Eagle as 1 credit.
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Postby FParker185 on October 5th, 2014, 6:52 pm
I count each track separately, and I've yet to gain a half credit from mobius coasters :)
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Postby BBH on October 6th, 2014, 9:50 pm
Sharon29060 wrote:^I count American Eagle as 1 credit.

Because you're wrong. ;)

Racing coasters with two distinct tracks are two credits, while Möbius coasters are one credit.
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Postby MNSFGAmfan on February 16th, 2015, 10:47 am
Not a new credit. Unless there are big changes to the track or trains that significantly alter the ride experience, it's basically the same ride.
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