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Postby jmanporty7 on July 9th, 2018, 9:22 am
I'm still hoping that a RMC T-rex is what is coming next year. It's only fitting for our park to get the first, looking at the history of firsts we have.
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Postby SFGAmFan12 on July 9th, 2018, 10:40 am
Ilovthevu' wrote:I don't get the Eagle talk. They are the ones painting the entire thing for, (someone said 5 years). If they didn't want to keep it, why waste all that money on painting that thing?


I know some suburban Chicago towns have ordinances on how a property must be kept in good repair...I remember, for example, before Huntley Outlet Mall was torn down the parking lot was in bad shape, light poles were rusting, and the building was dirty so the village issued fines and warnings to clean the place up. I’d be surprised if Gurnee doesn’t have something similar, and I’d be a little upset if I was the town with the way Eagle was looking from the road with the peeling paint and dirt.

TLDR: the park may be painting it to stay within code for now and not be fined if Gurnee has anything similar. I HIGHLY doubt it and it will most likely be around at its 50th birthday, but still.

As for what’s new...I’d like to see a Gerstlauer family style launch ride similar to Firechaser Express at Dollywood. This would give the park a new great family ride and a full circuit launch coaster. I do think it’s some sort of coaster and I hope to god it’s not of a water variant.

My thoughts:
-New Hurricane Harbor dedicated entrance and abandon current path (aligns with past rumors)
-Reroute Vipers queue closer to exit (this is pretty cheap to do in the grand scheme of things)
-We are left with a nice chunk of land to build on. The current paths can be removed since HH would enter through its own gate, the road isn’t needed for the Pictorium, Bull is tall enough to build under its turn, there is enough room for a steep turn near STT, and the train tracks intersecting can be built over or around. I think a good family coaster could fit there.
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Postby IssaCoaster on July 9th, 2018, 12:32 pm
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Ilovthevu' wrote:I don't get the Eagle talk. They are the ones painting the entire thing for, (someone said 5 years). If they didn't want to keep it, why waste all that money on painting that thing?


I know some suburban Chicago towns have ordinances on how a property must be kept in good repair...I remember, for example, before Huntley Outlet Mall was torn down the parking lot was in bad shape, light poles were rusting, and the building was dirty so the village issued fines and warnings to clean the place up. I’d be surprised if Gurnee doesn’t have something similar, and I’d be a little upset if I was the town with the way Eagle was looking from the road with the peeling paint and dirt.

TLDR: the park may be painting it to stay within code for now and not be fined if Gurnee has anything similar. I HIGHLY doubt it and it will most likely be around at its 50th birthday, but still.

As for what’s new...I’d like to see a Gerstlauer family style launch ride similar to Firechaser Express at Dollywood. This would give the park a new great family ride and a full circuit launch coaster. I do think it’s some sort of coaster and I hope to god it’s not of a water variant.

My thoughts:
-New Hurricane Harbor dedicated entrance and abandon current path (aligns with past rumors)
-Reroute Vipers queue closer to exit (this is pretty cheap to do in the grand scheme of things)
-We are left with a nice chunk of land to build on. The current paths can be removed since HH would enter through its own gate, the road isn’t needed for the Pictorium, Bull is tall enough to build under its turn, there is enough room for a steep turn near STT, and the train tracks intersecting can be built over or around. I think a good family coaster could fit there.

This sounds good, but I think Six flags would dedicate this area to a rollercoaster or thrill ride. Our park is pretty well balanced between the kids and older crowd. The park has spaces for the younger crowd and I'm sure that those spaces are enough(camp cartoon needs to be redone though). It's hard to saw what we will get, but I think it is going to be a T rex. Down the road, I think Six flags will convert the American Eagle. Btw, did you guys get anything from the Six Flags surveys that can help us? I heard about two names: Maxx Force and West Coast Racer and that's it.
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Postby Jacklw6499 on July 10th, 2018, 1:03 am
According to Hardo-Hards7865, RMC trucks and a track walk commenced recently on Eagle.
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Postby B&MGuy35 on July 10th, 2018, 1:52 am
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Postby B&MGuy35 on July 10th, 2018, 1:52 am
Jacklw6499 wrote:According to Hardo-Hards7865, RMC trucks and a track walk commenced recently on Eagle.


While I believe this, obviously this is not for 2018 or even 2019. Watch for 2021 to be the year Eagle will be rehabbed or Converted! 40th Anniversary of the coaster!!


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Postby ilrider on July 10th, 2018, 2:21 am
B&MGuy35 wrote:
Jacklw6499 wrote:According to Hardo-Hards7865, RMC trucks and a track walk commenced recently on Eagle.


While I believe this, obviously this is not for 2018 or even 2019. Watch for 2021 to be the year Eagle will be rehabbed or Converted! 49th Anniversary of the coaster!!


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I think you meant 40th, since Eagle opened in 1981 (probably just a typo). That would be cool!
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Postby ilrider on July 10th, 2018, 2:21 am
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Postby AirTimeDaz on July 10th, 2018, 7:13 am
Wow. Guess my "unpopular opinion" escalated quickly. :lol: And here I thought I would be pelted with tomatoes.

It's probably all just pure fantasy, but then again, maybe not... all I can say for sure is Alan Schike is a master. I think of him more as a "thrill artist". There is an art to the elements he comes up with and the sequence of forces he engineers. RMC's design software is becoming more refined and their hypothetical animation pov's are becoming increasingly more indistinguishable from real pov's in side by side comparisons.

All I can do for now is just imagine what type of madness RMC could come up with if given a proper budget. I don't know how much SteVe costs to convert, but some time down the road, if we were to spread, lets say 20M, over the course of 2 seasons, i don't think 10M for 2 years is out of the question. It doesn't have to be "taller or faster" than SteVe to be better or just as good. That's a misnomer. Maverick is half it's height and still an enthusiasts fave. Goliath's drop isn't as tall by 20ft but SV is listed as only 2 mph faster.

If they were to ever (and it's still a BIG IF), I don't think it should be a mobius loop like TC, however. I believe they should keep it as a 2-coaster racer, especially for capacity's sake (48 per dispatch people-eater) and as an added bonus, it could be the world's longest, fastest hybrid racer, and it would be a real record instead of ridiculous, made up six-flags records. "Iron Eagle" could definitely be an amazing mix between SV and TC, but I think some people will bemoan the very idea of it because they have this thing about nostalgia, but new nostalgia is made everyday by everyone that experiences memorable things. 8)
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Postby coasterjoy on July 10th, 2018, 12:58 pm
Jacklw6499 wrote:According to Hardo-Hards7865, RMC trucks and a track walk commenced recently on Eagle.


When RMC comes to a park and does a track walk like this, what all are the possibilities for what they would be doing? Like an estimate?


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Postby _FuryBull_330_ on July 10th, 2018, 3:12 pm
Can I have an actual source to this because I'm getting excited but not too sure.
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Postby IssaCoaster on July 10th, 2018, 3:40 pm
_FuryBull_330_ wrote:Can I have an actual source to this because I'm getting excited but not too sure.

I second this. I need sources, proof, sites, pics, anything. Show me what you got.
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Postby IssaCoaster on July 10th, 2018, 4:26 pm
coasterjoy wrote:
Jacklw6499 wrote:According to Hardo-Hards7865, RMC trucks and a track walk commenced recently on Eagle.


When RMC comes to a park and does a track walk like this, what all are the possibilities for what they would be doing? Like an estimate?


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I would think so. It would make sense that they are back there again though because weren't they looking at it couple years back? Maybe they have been planning the layout all this time and Sixflags has been putting it off for a later year. Who knows tbh. I'm still thinking something is going in that pictorium spot first though. Then an RMC Eagle. If they RMC.... Six flags better let them do it the right way.
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Postby JaminOut on July 11th, 2018, 12:07 am
IssaCoaster wrote:
coasterjoy wrote:
Jacklw6499 wrote:According to Hardo-Hards7865, RMC trucks and a track walk commenced recently on Eagle.


When RMC comes to a park and does a track walk like this, what all are the possibilities for what they would be doing? Like an estimate?


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I would think so. It would make sense that they are back there again though because weren't they looking at it couple years back? Maybe they have been planning the layout all this time and Sixflags has been putting it off for a later year. Who knows tbh. I'm still thinking something is going in that pictorium spot first though. Then an RMC Eagle. If they RMC.... Six flags better let them do it the right way.


The official story was that RMC was looking to build Iron Eagle for the 2014 season. They did a walk around and ride evaluation in 2012 at Eagle’s site. While walking back to the offices the passed through Iron Wolf’s former spot. RMC asked them about their plans for it (of which they had none) and RMC offered up the idea of a custom ground-up coaster. Management liked the idea, they discussed it, and now we have Goliath.


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Postby coasterjoy on July 11th, 2018, 1:37 am
Was Six Flags actually planning on going through with RMC'ing Eagle before they went through with Goliath instead?
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Postby IssaCoaster on July 11th, 2018, 9:34 am
coasterjoy wrote:Was Six Flags actually planning on going through with RMC'ing Eagle before they went through with Goliath instead?

I mean, they probably were going to. But that opportunity was too much to pass up. Breaking 4 world records at once with a short rollercoaster seemed like Six flags style alright. But I think they are still looking at Eagle. The potential that thing has is huge.
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Postby Goku1910 on July 11th, 2018, 9:35 am
Potential that is stifled by it's location.

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Postby momlovescoasters on July 11th, 2018, 10:24 am
I have mixed feelings about Eagle. It’s my favorite ride in the park and I’m scared the changes would be too drastic. I love the first drop....I know it’s not the steepest or tallest but something about it just makes me laugh and happy. I guess the positive part of an RMC is not having to drag and bribe other people to ride it with me because “it’s too rough”.
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Postby IssaCoaster on July 11th, 2018, 12:05 pm
Goku1910 wrote:Potential that is stifled by it's location.

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So they can't build on top of the structure at all? I thought it was if they tore it down they couldn't put anything in that spot.
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Postby American Eagle 1981 on July 11th, 2018, 1:05 pm
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Goku1910 wrote:Potential that is stifled by it's location.

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So they can't build on top of the structure at all? I thought it was if they tore it down they couldn't put anything in that spot.

No that’s not true. I used to believe that as well but I’ve found it to be false from city laws. Anything could be built in the spot as long as it stays 50 feet away from Washington.
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Postby Jacklw6499 on July 11th, 2018, 4:32 pm
RMC eagle will most likely be for 2021. Should be a massive project. As for next year's attraction, it's gonna be something enthusiasts have been wanting for a long time. Get excited ladies and gentleman.
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Postby RollingCoasting on July 11th, 2018, 4:42 pm
Bill's Lemonade is coming back?!!?? :lol:
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Postby Goku1910 on July 11th, 2018, 4:45 pm
American Eagle 1981 wrote:
IssaCoaster wrote:
Goku1910 wrote:Potential that is stifled by it's location.

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So they can't build on top of the structure at all? I thought it was if they tore it down they couldn't put anything in that spot.

No that’s not true. I used to believe that as well but I’ve found it to be false from city laws. Anything could be built in the spot as long as it stays 50 feet away from Washington.
Did they reduce it? Used to be more than 50 feet from what I remember. Do you know what's the distance limit on I-94?

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Postby MrsTaxi on July 11th, 2018, 5:07 pm
RMC does regular track work,too....don't they? I have mixed feelings about changing Eagle. Goliath is an awesome ride and all but, Those seatbelts keep getting shorter and shorter! :shock:
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