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Postby IssaCoaster on July 7th, 2018, 5:45 pm
I can semi confirm that the next addition will not be at the water park. I'm pretty sure this is confirmed, but I don't want to take any chances. That is what I have found out.
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Postby RollingCoasting on July 7th, 2018, 6:07 pm
Anyone think we could get Kanonen next year? I know it's a long shot considering how unusual it would be for us to get a 13 year old relocated coaster, but I've been hearing some things that make me think there's a possibility. Afterall, it was apparently purchased by a park in the Midwest and seems to be a perfect fit for the Pictorium site. Thoughts?
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Postby Goku1910 on July 7th, 2018, 6:11 pm
Seems unlikely. I can't even remember the last time Six Flags purchased any used ride. Let alone a Roller Coaster.

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Postby Tardis1972 on July 7th, 2018, 6:46 pm
Goku1910 wrote:Seems unlikely. I can't even remember the last time Six Flags purchased any used ride. Let alone a Roller Coaster.

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What about Chang? Wouldn't that count as a used ride?

Also Screamscape has another picture with markers in place. Although I can't exactly tell if they're red or pink markets.
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Postby Tardis1972 on July 7th, 2018, 6:47 pm
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Postby Ilovthevu' on July 7th, 2018, 7:06 pm
^He said "purchased". Six Flags does take used rides out of their own parks (or a park they DID own), but he's talking about Six Flags buying a Cedar Point ride for instance, and than putting it in a Six Flags park.

Six Flags felt Chang was their ride, and took it out of "their" park. If you also remember, they took a wild mouse coaster out of that park too. T2, they thought was complete garbage, and left it. lol

Six Flags told the Kentucky fair board that they were taking Chang out, and going to put in a waterpark thing in it's place. What Six Flags did though is took that and the wild mouse coaster out of there, and than announced they are closing. The Kentucky fair board was mad at them. They snuck it out of the park fast. lol

It ties back to Great America though because we got the waterpark expansion that was supposed to go Kentucky Kingdom, and than Chang (instead of coming by us) went to Great Adventure.
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Postby Tardis1972 on July 7th, 2018, 8:02 pm
Yeah I figured that. Just took a wild guess with that one. Well what about Little Dipper then? The park did purchase it after all.
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Postby IssaCoaster on July 7th, 2018, 11:52 pm
I'm now gonna go ahead and say that it is confirmed that the next addition will not be a water park addition.
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Postby Goku1910 on July 8th, 2018, 5:39 am
The word confirmed does not belong in a speculation topic.

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Postby SFGAMNUT9302 on July 8th, 2018, 7:11 am
When it comes to the American Eagle and RMC. I would love to see it! It would be extremely expensive to use IBOX track on 9,000 + feet, so they would probably end up going with topper track.

The Great American Eagle would almost certainly be a GP magnet. Look what RMC did to Mean Streak. They took one of the worst wooden coasters in the world and turned it into one of the best Roller Coasters in the world.

Who ever thought Mean Streak would end up being one of the most popular rides at Cedar Point? lol
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Postby B&MGuy35 on July 8th, 2018, 9:51 am
SFGAMNUT9302 wrote:When it comes to the American Eagle and RMC. I would love to see it! It would be extremely expensive to use IBOX track on 9,000 + feet, so they would probably end up going with topper track.

The Great American Eagle would almost certainly be a GP magnet. Look what RMC did to Mean Streak. They took one of the worst wooden coasters in the world and turned it into one of the best Roller Coasters in the world.

Who ever thought Mean Streak would end up being one of the most popular rides at Cedar Point? lol


Honestly in my opinion I think we get a RMC conversion on Eagle in 3 years with that being the next major installment at our park. You gotta figure that Cedar Fair prolly has a clause in their contract with RMC stating they hold the world record for a min of 3 years.

Yes yes we all know Eagle would cost a fortune but it really is the only coaster in Six Flags arsenal that could compete with Steel Vengeance if that’s what they intend to do. I don’t think they would touch El Toro seeing how popular it is and well that’s technically a RMC anyways since they built it, right? They could easily steepen American Eagle’s lift hill slightly and add to the top to achieve the world record for height and speed not to mention to have it be dueling racing coaster hybrid. It would basically be like getting 2 coasters in one year budget wise but again with our proximity to Cedar Point it quite possible as we’ve always been competitor with them. And knowing Six Flags they’d go for silly records too like most RMC coasters in one park seeing we’re getting a Raptor or T-Rex this year! [FACE WITH STUCK-OUT TONGUE AND WINKING EYE]


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Postby jmanporty7 on July 8th, 2018, 1:23 pm
B&MGuy35 wrote: Yes yes we all know Eagle would cost a fortune but it really is the only coaster in Six Flags arsenal that could compete with Steel Vengeance if that’s what they intend to do.


Only coaster huh? The Boss at SFSL has probably the most potential out of any coaster in the world to compete with Steel Vengeance, if it were to be RMC'd.
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Postby B&MGuy35 on July 8th, 2018, 1:47 pm
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B&MGuy35 wrote: Yes yes we all know Eagle would cost a fortune but it really is the only coaster in Six Flags arsenal that could compete with Steel Vengeance if that’s what they intend to do.


Only coaster huh? The Boss at SFSL has probably the most potential out of any coaster in the world to compete with Steel Vengeance, if it were to be RMC'd.


I honestly forgot about that coaster but my guess is still for Eagle and our park being that our park is the companies Premier Park in the chain (in my opinion) and if you don’t believe that then just look at everything we’ve gotten in the last 10 years compared to other parks.


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Postby Wisco Woody on July 8th, 2018, 4:32 pm
Sorry to burst your bubble, but Eagle is not beating Steel Vengeance in height and speed if it gets the RMC conversion. Mean Streak already had a height of 161 ft and drop of almost 160 ft. AE only has a height of 127 ft and a drop of 147 ft which while insanely impressive for 1981 is nowhere near tall enough to be extended to the 200 ft drop of Steel Vengeance. Also topper track is quite more expensive than Ibox track since they have to prefabricate the wood and bolt it to the steel plates in a complicated pattern, so you'd definitely be looking at the Ibox track with results likely very similar to Twisted Colossus.
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Postby Goku1910 on July 8th, 2018, 4:34 pm
A non racing double lift eagle would not be fun. Pass.

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Postby JaminOut on July 8th, 2018, 4:57 pm
At the park today. In terms of the survey markers near Whizzer, all of them are pink. I know there was discussion earlier whether they were red or pink.
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Postby B&MGuy35 on July 8th, 2018, 5:02 pm
JaminOut wrote:At the park today. In terms of the survey markers near Whizzer, all of them are pink. I know there was discussion earlier whether they were red or pink.


Pink are temporary markers used while surveying is being done. Usually replaced with whatever color they are doing the survey for at a later time. USUALLY
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Postby chicagoperson on July 8th, 2018, 7:30 pm
This is an awesome season in terms of speculation lol
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Postby IssaCoaster on July 8th, 2018, 11:48 pm
Wisco Woody wrote:Sorry to burst your bubble, but Eagle is not beating Steel Vengeance in height and speed if it gets the RMC conversion. Mean Streak already had a height of 161 ft and drop of almost 160 ft. AE only has a height of 127 ft and a drop of 147 ft which while insanely impressive for 1981 is nowhere near tall enough to be extended to the 200 ft drop of Steel Vengeance. Also topper track is quite more expensive than Ibox track since they have to prefabricate the wood and bolt it to the steel plates in a complicated pattern, so you'd definitely be looking at the Ibox track with results likely very similar to Twisted Colossus.


I wouldn't say that you can't extend the height to 200ft. I would say that Six flags would never put in that much money to make the Eagle that good of a coaster. The Eagle definetly has the potential to be one of the best RMC conversions ever. It just needs money and time to do it, which are things Sixflags doesn't really seem interested in at the moment. Hopefully they prove me wrong. Btw... what is with this RMC speculation? I heard rumors that they were looking at the Eagle again and that they were at the construction spot.
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Postby IssaCoaster on July 8th, 2018, 11:51 pm
Goku1910 wrote:The word confirmed does not belong in a speculation topic.

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Lol. You're right. But I have a very good reason to why it won't be a water park addition
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Postby Goku1910 on July 8th, 2018, 11:52 pm
You might be able to get above 200 feet if the drop was moved further back and one of the airtime Hills was removed.

This is a stretch though with the entrance that goes under it not to mention it's drop is slightly underground

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Postby SaveTheWAVE on July 9th, 2018, 12:44 am
It may be possible to get AE to 180 ft tall by increasing the lift angle to 45 degrees and perhaps starting the lift closer to the station by X amount of feet. The underground portion of Eagle could theoretically still be used, so 180 ft lift + 20 ft underground = hyper drop length.
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Postby Ilovthevu' on July 9th, 2018, 1:38 am
I don't get the Eagle talk. They are the ones painting the entire thing for, (someone said 5 years). If they didn't want to keep it, why waste all that money on painting that thing?
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Postby Goku1910 on July 9th, 2018, 6:57 am
That doesn't rule out an RMC. If anything, it further supports it.

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Postby IssaCoaster on July 9th, 2018, 7:05 am
SaveTheWAVE wrote:It may be possible to get AE to 180 ft tall by increasing the lift angle to 45 degrees and perhaps starting the lift closer to the station by X amount of feet. The underground portion of Eagle could theoretically still be used, so 180 ft lift + 20 ft underground = hyper drop length.

Yup. I also noticed that the first drop on the Eagle is drawn out and not nearly as steep as the RMCs. I wonder how they would tweak that
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