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Postby IssaCoaster on June 18th, 2018, 12:10 am
To be on the safe side, I'm still expecting an addition to the water park. That way if it is a coaster, I end up surprising myself. But if it were a coaster, wouldn't they have started putting footers down already? I've seen other parks put footers down for their 2019 coasters already. Also, with Orbit gone from the park, is there any chance we can get a Huss Giant Discovery in that spot or something similar to that kind of footprint? I know we have Revolution, but I think we should start thinking about some flat rides the park can add.
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Postby RollingCoasting on June 18th, 2018, 12:22 am
^ The Lobster is located in Orbit's former spot
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Postby IssaCoaster on June 18th, 2018, 12:33 am
RollingCoasting wrote:^ The Lobster is located in Orbit's former spot
Nevermind about that then[FACE WITH TEARS OF JOY]. But what kind of flat ride do you think SFGAM is in need of?

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Postby Coaster Justin on June 18th, 2018, 2:11 am
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RollingCoasting wrote:^ The Lobster is located in Orbit's former spot
Nevermind about that then[FACE WITH TEARS OF JOY]. But what kind of flat ride do you think SFGAM is in need of?

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Postby HuskieJohn on June 18th, 2018, 2:55 pm
Hoping for you all hardcore people that its something spectacular since this is a rather big chunk of land.

I really hope they do not expand HH towards the main park. HH can expand into the parking lot little by little while the main park has very little areas to move outward.

One thing I would like to share is that as a season pass holder I get SF and SFGA surveys where they ask about ride concepts and names.

Based on the latest one from SFGA specifically they seemed set on adding a kiddie coaster. They were interested in my families opinion of the theme and ride looks for this coaster. A secondary question they were interested in my families usage of each kiddie area in the park. Our least visited area was Hometown Park (almost never visited) and the least visited kiddie ride outside of those areas was BB.

Thinking about that I wonder if they would ever clear and combine those areas for a bigger/better ride. That would also help attract people to the Demon...if anyone hasn't gotten their heads banged around lately.

The latest one from SF corporate was about a the naming of a duel racing (car like) coaster. I saw some mention of SF registering the name "Alleyway" something or other on this forum and as soon as I read that name I immediately thought that was one of the names that was an option.
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Postby Ilovthevu' on June 18th, 2018, 3:40 pm
I still think it's a waterpark addition, and the water coaster. Let's say it's not. If it's not, I don't think it would be a thrill machine coaster because this park has been getting so many thrill coasters & thrill rides left and right with X-Flight, the Rmc ride, Joker, and they call the Larson Looper a coaster. For family stuff, Justice League is one of the few big additions, they have added. When is the last family coaster they added? - 8 years ago with the Little Dipper, and that kind of was a cheap investment / unplanned. Remember, they also removed another family coaster (Ragin Cajun) even though I didn't like it one bit.

To me, it just doesn't make sense with what they are doing to get your thrill machine coaster. They usually switch off in what they get, and they haven't done waterpark in awhile, and BRAND NEW kiddie rides (They have added kiddie rides, but they were a cheap investment being very old.) / family coaster either.

Take this into consideration also with the waterpark. Last addition was 2011. In 2019, that would be 8 years already without something new, if they don't add anything.
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Postby JT2002 on June 18th, 2018, 5:54 pm
On the matter of kiddie rides, I would love to see something better go in place of Camp Cartoon, which has been seeming to get worse and worse every year. Maybe that's for 2020 though?
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Postby Coaster Justin on June 20th, 2018, 6:37 pm
JT2002 wrote:On the matter of kiddie rides, I would love to see something better go in place of Camp Cartoon, which has been seeming to get worse and worse every year. Maybe that's for 2020 though?



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Postby IssaCoaster on June 20th, 2018, 7:41 pm
Question: with the Great Wolf lodge opening down the road, is SFGam and Great Wolf working together or something? Because if that is true, that may change my pespective of how much the park needs a HH addition.

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Postby staticshadows on June 20th, 2018, 7:59 pm
IssaCoaster wrote:Question: with the Great Wolf lodge opening down the road, is SFGam and Great Wolf working together or something? Because if that is true, that may change my pespective of how much the park needs a HH addition.

Not that I am aware of. Great Wolf is targeting families with young children and is offering a higher level product than Key Lime Cove or Six Flags. They brought in a guy who used to be the GM of Operations at Epcot to run the place.
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Postby Mr.EveryDaySFGA on June 20th, 2018, 8:16 pm
Any one know why key lime cove got sold

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Postby staticshadows on June 20th, 2018, 8:22 pm
Great Wolf is in expansion mode and the bank had been trying to find a buyer since they foreclosed on the property years ago.
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Postby JT2002 on June 21st, 2018, 8:55 am
Mr.EveryDaySFGA wrote:Any one know why key lime cove got sold

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Key Lime Cove was owned by the owners of Famous Dave's bbq. They were attempting to start a new chain of resorts like Great Wolf Lodge, but they started to lose money on the place and it didn't do too well. Eventually Gurnee told them to sell because they weren't getting enough money out of them from taxes. Great Wolf Lodge was quick to buy them out.
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Postby staticshadows on June 21st, 2018, 10:28 am
JT2002 wrote:
Mr.EveryDaySFGA wrote:Any one know why key lime cove got sold

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Eventually Gurnee told them to sell because they weren't getting enough money out of them from taxes. Great Wolf Lodge was quick to buy them out.

This part is completely incorrect.
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Postby JT2002 on June 22nd, 2018, 12:29 pm
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Mr.EveryDaySFGA wrote:Any one know why key lime cove got sold

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Eventually Gurnee told them to sell because they weren't getting enough money out of them from taxes. Great Wolf Lodge was quick to buy them out.

This part is completely incorrect.


Key Lime Cove had to pay the village half of the hotel and resort taxes that they collect. They were expected to pay the village at most $22 million by 2028; they only had paid $4 million by the time they closed (about half way to 2028). The village was quoted as being disapointed in Key Live Cove's performance and pressuring them to make changes and increase development.
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Postby JaminOut on June 22nd, 2018, 1:41 pm
JT2002 wrote:
staticshadows wrote:
JT2002 wrote:[quote="Mr.EveryDaySFGA"]Any one know why key lime cove got sold

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Eventually Gurnee told them to sell because they weren't getting enough money out of them from taxes. Great Wolf Lodge was quick to buy them out.

This part is completely incorrect.


Key Lime Cove had to pay the village half of the hotel and resort taxes that they collect. They were expected to pay the village at most $22 million by 2028; they only had paid $4 million by the time they closed (about half way to 2028). The village was quoted as being disapointed in Key Live Cove's performance and pressuring them to make changes and increase development.[/quote]

Could you site the source? I’d like to read more into the situation.


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Postby JT2002 on June 22nd, 2018, 1:49 pm
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Postby JaminOut on June 22nd, 2018, 8:23 pm


Those are some interesting articles... I didn’t know Key Lime Cove was supposed to have at 60,000 sq ft outdoor water park!
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Postby IssaCoaster on June 24th, 2018, 8:50 pm
JaminOut wrote:


Those are some interesting articles... I didn’t know Key Lime Cove was supposed to have at 60,000 sq ft outdoor water park!
Sorry for moving us off topic like that. I just had to know what the deal was with Great Wolf Lodge and Six Flags. Is there anything new on what may be coming in 2019?

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Postby _FuryBull_330_ on June 25th, 2018, 10:47 am
^ No nothing new. I think we might start seeing footers be put around July or August. Also anyone know the size of ride footers because now is our time to see your math skills.
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Postby B&MGuy35 on June 25th, 2018, 11:57 am
_FuryBull_330_ wrote:^ No nothing new. I think we might start seeing footers be put around July or August. Also anyone know the size of ride footers because now is our time to see your math skills.


I’m confused on by so many of you think construction will be starting so soon. The only coaster I’ve ever seen construction start early was for Viper. Footers were down before end of season. But all others didn’t start until May least November from what I can recall. Someone please correct me if I’m wrong.


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Postby WolfRaging95 on June 25th, 2018, 12:33 pm
B&MGuy35 wrote:
_FuryBull_330_ wrote:^ No nothing new. I think we might start seeing footers be put around July or August. Also anyone know the size of ride footers because now is our time to see your math skills.


I’m confused on by so many of you think construction will be starting so soon. The only coaster I’ve ever seen construction start early was for Viper. Footers were down before end of season. But all others didn’t start until May least November from what I can recall. Someone please correct me if I’m wrong.


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This isn't the first time I've heard about construction starting soon. I believe JiggidyNDG has even said it'll be "soon." I'm not exactly sure why the park would start construction so soon, but maybe to try and have majority of the ride together since the park will be open until December this year? I see like an advertisement to have a reason to buy a season pass this season/next season. If that makes sense. This is just my speculation/thoughts. I would love to hear from others on why they think construction is starting so soon. I love this time of the season.
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Postby Goku1910 on June 25th, 2018, 7:23 pm
It could be due to the location if it starts early. Pictorium was sitting on a slope that appears to be difficult to redevelop.

Who knows, it's all speculation. If I had to take a guess Construction won't start for a while seeing as Six Flags has a history of being late on everything.
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Postby RollingCoasting on July 2nd, 2018, 2:02 pm
Survey markers have been spotted in Pictorium's spot!

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