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Postby IssaCoaster on June 20th, 2018, 7:41 pm
Question: with the Great Wolf lodge opening down the road, is SFGam and Great Wolf working together or something? Because if that is true, that may change my pespective of how much the park needs a HH addition.

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Postby staticshadows on June 20th, 2018, 7:59 pm
IssaCoaster wrote:Question: with the Great Wolf lodge opening down the road, is SFGam and Great Wolf working together or something? Because if that is true, that may change my pespective of how much the park needs a HH addition.

Not that I am aware of. Great Wolf is targeting families with young children and is offering a higher level product than Key Lime Cove or Six Flags. They brought in a guy who used to be the GM of Operations at Epcot to run the place.
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Postby Mr.EveryDaySFGA on June 20th, 2018, 8:16 pm
Any one know why key lime cove got sold

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Postby staticshadows on June 20th, 2018, 8:22 pm
Great Wolf is in expansion mode and the bank had been trying to find a buyer since they foreclosed on the property years ago.
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Postby JT2002 on June 21st, 2018, 8:55 am
Mr.EveryDaySFGA wrote:Any one know why key lime cove got sold

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Key Lime Cove was owned by the owners of Famous Dave's bbq. They were attempting to start a new chain of resorts like Great Wolf Lodge, but they started to lose money on the place and it didn't do too well. Eventually Gurnee told them to sell because they weren't getting enough money out of them from taxes. Great Wolf Lodge was quick to buy them out.
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Postby staticshadows on June 21st, 2018, 10:28 am
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Mr.EveryDaySFGA wrote:Any one know why key lime cove got sold

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Eventually Gurnee told them to sell because they weren't getting enough money out of them from taxes. Great Wolf Lodge was quick to buy them out.

This part is completely incorrect.
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Postby JT2002 on June 22nd, 2018, 12:29 pm
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JT2002 wrote:
Mr.EveryDaySFGA wrote:Any one know why key lime cove got sold

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Eventually Gurnee told them to sell because they weren't getting enough money out of them from taxes. Great Wolf Lodge was quick to buy them out.

This part is completely incorrect.


Key Lime Cove had to pay the village half of the hotel and resort taxes that they collect. They were expected to pay the village at most $22 million by 2028; they only had paid $4 million by the time they closed (about half way to 2028). The village was quoted as being disapointed in Key Live Cove's performance and pressuring them to make changes and increase development.
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Postby JaminOut on June 22nd, 2018, 1:41 pm
JT2002 wrote:
staticshadows wrote:
JT2002 wrote:[quote="Mr.EveryDaySFGA"]Any one know why key lime cove got sold

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Eventually Gurnee told them to sell because they weren't getting enough money out of them from taxes. Great Wolf Lodge was quick to buy them out.

This part is completely incorrect.


Key Lime Cove had to pay the village half of the hotel and resort taxes that they collect. They were expected to pay the village at most $22 million by 2028; they only had paid $4 million by the time they closed (about half way to 2028). The village was quoted as being disapointed in Key Live Cove's performance and pressuring them to make changes and increase development.[/quote]

Could you site the source? I’d like to read more into the situation.


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Postby JT2002 on June 22nd, 2018, 1:49 pm
I don't know who you are. I don't know what you want. If you are looking for ransom, I can tell you I don't have money. But what I do have are a very particular set of skills, skills I have acquired over a very long career. Skills that make me a nightmare for people like you. If you let my park get a RMC Trex, that'll be the end of it. I will not look for you, I will not pursue you. But if you don't, I will look for you, I will find you, and I will double post on this forum.
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Postby JaminOut on June 22nd, 2018, 8:23 pm


Those are some interesting articles... I didn’t know Key Lime Cove was supposed to have at 60,000 sq ft outdoor water park!
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Postby IssaCoaster on June 24th, 2018, 8:50 pm
JaminOut wrote:


Those are some interesting articles... I didn’t know Key Lime Cove was supposed to have at 60,000 sq ft outdoor water park!
Sorry for moving us off topic like that. I just had to know what the deal was with Great Wolf Lodge and Six Flags. Is there anything new on what may be coming in 2019?

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Postby _FuryBull_330_ on June 25th, 2018, 10:47 am
^ No nothing new. I think we might start seeing footers be put around July or August. Also anyone know the size of ride footers because now is our time to see your math skills.
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Postby B&MGuy35 on June 25th, 2018, 11:57 am
_FuryBull_330_ wrote:^ No nothing new. I think we might start seeing footers be put around July or August. Also anyone know the size of ride footers because now is our time to see your math skills.


I’m confused on by so many of you think construction will be starting so soon. The only coaster I’ve ever seen construction start early was for Viper. Footers were down before end of season. But all others didn’t start until May least November from what I can recall. Someone please correct me if I’m wrong.


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Postby WolfRaging95 on June 25th, 2018, 12:33 pm
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_FuryBull_330_ wrote:^ No nothing new. I think we might start seeing footers be put around July or August. Also anyone know the size of ride footers because now is our time to see your math skills.


I’m confused on by so many of you think construction will be starting so soon. The only coaster I’ve ever seen construction start early was for Viper. Footers were down before end of season. But all others didn’t start until May least November from what I can recall. Someone please correct me if I’m wrong.


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This isn't the first time I've heard about construction starting soon. I believe JiggidyNDG has even said it'll be "soon." I'm not exactly sure why the park would start construction so soon, but maybe to try and have majority of the ride together since the park will be open until December this year? I see like an advertisement to have a reason to buy a season pass this season/next season. If that makes sense. This is just my speculation/thoughts. I would love to hear from others on why they think construction is starting so soon. I love this time of the season.
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Postby Goku1910 on June 25th, 2018, 7:23 pm
It could be due to the location if it starts early. Pictorium was sitting on a slope that appears to be difficult to redevelop.

Who knows, it's all speculation. If I had to take a guess Construction won't start for a while seeing as Six Flags has a history of being late on everything.
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Postby RollingCoasting on July 2nd, 2018, 2:02 pm
Survey markers have been spotted in Pictorium's spot!

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Postby _FuryBull_330_ on July 2nd, 2018, 6:05 pm
^ Doesn't allow me to get on Facebook. Pictures please.
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Postby RollingCoasting on July 2nd, 2018, 6:35 pm
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Postby B&MGuy35 on July 2nd, 2018, 6:38 pm
And if you notice the guy standing in the tracks still doing more? Does anyone know if any have been placed on other side of tracks yet?


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Postby Goku1910 on July 2nd, 2018, 6:54 pm
Some people commented on the markers near the road as well but those could be for the railroad if it moves/gets reconfigured.

Like with X-Flight.

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Postby _FuryBull_330_ on July 2nd, 2018, 8:18 pm
The markings might help us figure out what the ride is going to be.

Red=Electrical
Blue=Water
Purple=Temporary Construction.

If we see a bunch of water markings well it's a water park expansion.
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Postby Goku1910 on July 2nd, 2018, 8:21 pm
That's assuming the water goes underground. A lot of Six Flags parks keep their waterpark infrastructure above ground.

Riptide Bay has the building right under the slides so I doubt we'll see any markers besides pink and red.

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Postby SaveTheWAVE on July 2nd, 2018, 10:18 pm
Hmmmm...interesting. The marker(s) by the GASR tracks makes me wonder if whatever it is that’s coming wouldn’t be a custom something?
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Postby _FuryBull_330_ on July 2nd, 2018, 11:15 pm
^ Don't get too excited. It's Six Flags :lol: .
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Postby SFGAMNUT9302 on July 3rd, 2018, 3:06 am
If this does turn out to be a Roller Coaster...... Now that the Wild Mouse has been removed from Black Pleasure Beach, Great America could add one more wooden coaster and become the wooden coaster capital of the world.

Do you think they would add a GCI in that spot?
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