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Postby _FuryBull_330_ on August 10th, 2018, 5:53 pm
And Dive Bomber is near Pictorium makes sense.

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Postby JackGlass on August 10th, 2018, 5:58 pm
I'm still not convinced Magic Mountain is getting a Roller Coaster in 2019. There's a lot of hype surrounding a poorly translated video that could easily be mistaken for "Carolina" instead of "California" and we already know a Mack is on its way to Carowinds. 2019 might end up being Great Americas year and 2020 might be Magic Mountains 20th coaster.

Hopefully our next teaser gives us more insight.... Why can't it just be August 30th already? lol
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Postby staticshadows on August 10th, 2018, 6:17 pm
^Magic Mountain is also teasing a racing theme and a launch.
Here is a link to the five posters.
https://imgur.com/gallery/LgPG3Lh
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Postby Goku1910 on August 10th, 2018, 6:18 pm
staticshadows wrote:^Magic Mountain is also teasing a racing theme and a launch.
Here is a link to the five posters.
https://imgur.com/gallery/LgPG3Lh
That's what worries me, identical teaser themes usually indicates a cookie cutter addition.

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Postby JackGlass on August 10th, 2018, 6:21 pm
staticshadows wrote:^Magic Mountain is also teasing a racing theme and a launch.
Here is a link to the five posters.
https://imgur.com/gallery/LgPG3Lh


Awesome! Thank you!
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Postby staticshadows on August 10th, 2018, 6:51 pm
The two cleared pieces of land at Magic Mountain line up pretty well with our clearing and survey markings. I circled the clearings at Magic Mountain in red and then placed it on top of an image of Great America. Both images were at approximately the same scale.
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Postby IssaCoaster on August 10th, 2018, 7:05 pm
staticshadows wrote:The two cleared pieces of land at Magic Mountain line up pretty well with our clearing and survey markings. I circled the clearings at Magic Mountain in red and then placed it on top of an image of Great America. Both images were at approximately the same scale.
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So that rules out a Full Throttle like attraction. I'm aiming toward a cookie cutter T rex with a launch. But even that would be a good addition in my book. Better than joker. And if we do get the same thing as MM.... maybe it will be a good attraction. The some of rollercoasters there are world class.
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Postby RBullFan97 on August 10th, 2018, 7:40 pm
Honestly it doesn't really matter much to me if it's cookie cutter. As long as it's a good ride I'll be happy. Plus, I'd say that similar campaign from SFMM increases our odds at a coaster. Maybe they'll get West Coast Racers and we'll get Maxx Force.
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Postby ilrider on August 10th, 2018, 8:23 pm
Goku1910 wrote:They don't do just coasters. This was already explained so it can essentially be anything.

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Well there is no evidence they have done any water rides, which is why I asked if ProSlide does their own construction. That was not explained anywhere. I believe they do, which would rule out a water coaster, because ProSlide are building the best ones around and built the one in Texas. This company deals only in steel from what I can see. It's a coaster. It's too big a space for anything else.
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Postby gottastrata33 on August 10th, 2018, 8:48 pm
Whoa to those MM posters. Those are almost blunt teasers. Exciting!! I love SFMM but back to us...

I understand about it not being too far fetched but I’m seriously worried to be following what so many of you are saying & be disappointed at the end of this month. I don’t look into the teasers as detailed as you do & then my coaster enthusiast heart starts racing. But In the end we get a Skywarp ending in heartbreak. Lol

I’m just very skeptical at this point. As I’ve said, I’d love to be wrong & amazed but I’m nervous at this point. If it had so much to do with racing, why not have AE in the teaser. One person on red, one on blue, record who comes in first blah blah ?? I hope you’re all laughing in my face & I’m in shock to be honest.
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Postby Dan The Coaster Man on August 10th, 2018, 11:35 pm
I would only be disappointed if the addition goes to HH. I wont spend time in there. Anything to the dry park and its a win for me :lol:
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Postby gottastrata33 on August 11th, 2018, 2:11 am
I love the waterpark & I’m not ashamed of that. I’m proud that we have it (not to mention the nearly complete collection from the proslide catalogue we have is impressive) & while I do agree we need more to the water park, I do not agree with expanding it into Great America AGAIN. The land we’re seeing would be incredible to have for a coaster & flat in the future to expand that area & bring life back into it.


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Postby JackGlass on August 11th, 2018, 6:58 am
gottastrata33 wrote:I love the waterpark & I’m not ashamed of that. I’m proud that we have it (not to mention the nearly complete collection from the proslide catalogue we have is impressive) & while I do agree we need more to the water park, I do not agree with expanding it into Great America AGAIN. The land we’re seeing would be incredible to have for a coaster & flat in the future to expand that area & bring life back into it.


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Hurricane Harbor is amazing! One of the best water parks out there as far as I'm concerned.

I really liked the Deluge water coaster at Kentucky Kingdom and I think something like that would be an awesome addition to our water park! I did a quick aerial comparison on Google maps of Deluge at Kentucky Kingdom and Hurricane Harbor at Six Flags Great America. If we got an exact clone of the Deluge they would barely have to remove any parking spots because of it's narrow layout and it could easily go in the parking lot.

I hope that's what ends up happening for 2020! We gent a water coaster in the parking lot and we end up getting a roller coaster in Pictoriums plot in 2019.... I hope man, fingers crossed, lol
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Postby Revi on August 11th, 2018, 8:43 am
Goku1910 wrote:
staticshadows wrote:^Magic Mountain is also teasing a racing theme and a launch.
Here is a link to the five posters.
https://imgur.com/gallery/LgPG3Lh
That's what worries me, identical teaser themes usually indicates a cookie cutter addition.

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If it is a new design and they both get one... it may be a cookie cutter.. ATLEAST it is a new design.
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Postby JackGlass on August 11th, 2018, 11:38 am
I was just reading Screamscapes Saturday morning update. Looks like Iron Wolf (Apocalypse) Might become a floorless coaster soon. Screamscape also seems to think that the new addition at Great America could possible be an S&S launched.
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Postby Muck Finnesota on August 11th, 2018, 12:16 pm
JackGlass wrote:Screamscape also seems to think that the new addition at Great America could possible be an S&S launched.


As long as it's similar to the designs that have been popping up in China, and not like the one that some shitty boardwalk park in Jersey built.
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Postby KruegerDad on August 11th, 2018, 1:10 pm
I will speculate that with SFMM also teasing a racing themed ride with the words "launch" and "2" in the teasers, that both parks could be getting launched coasters with 2 launches. Vekoma and Mack have made great strides with launched coasters in recent years. I personally would prefer one of these to an S&S.
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Postby Ilovthevu' on August 11th, 2018, 2:01 pm
JackGlass wrote:I was just reading Screamscapes Saturday morning update. Looks like Iron Wolf (Apocalypse) Might become a floorless coaster soon. Screamscape also seems to think that the new addition at Great America could possible be an S&S launched.


I think that's a dumb decision IF they did that. The problem with the ride is right after the corkscrew. The harnesses were replaced, and they are like rocks. More and more people stopped riding it each year after they made the harnesses more like rocks, at Great America. The park took it out than. People still won't like the ride because a floorless coaster is still going to have hard harnesses. That's a waste of money. The only way to fix it is getting a harness style such as Banshee, or change the tiny bit of layout and they won't.
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Postby JackGlass on August 11th, 2018, 2:07 pm
Ilovthevu' wrote:
JackGlass wrote:I was just reading Screamscapes Saturday morning update. Looks like Iron Wolf (Apocalypse) Might become a floorless coaster soon. Screamscape also seems to think that the new addition at Great America could possible be an S&S launched.


I think that's a dumb decision IF they did that. The problem with the ride is right after the corkscrew. The harnesses were replaced, and they are like rocks. More and more people stopped riding it each year after they made the harnesses more like rocks, at Great America. The park took it out than. People still won't like the ride because a floorless coaster is still going to have hard harnesses. That's a waste of money. The only way to fix it is getting a harness style such as Banshee, or change the tiny bit of layout and they won't.


I liked Iron Wolfs old harnesses WAY better than those hard rock restraints! When Iron Wolf first came out it was really smooth because it had better restraints. I agree, they need to create a Banshee version restraint for standups!

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Postby gottastrata33 on August 11th, 2018, 2:45 pm
An intertwining/dueling sky rocket 2 model with two twisted layouts would be pretty epic. Why haven’t they done that? Cmon Premier!


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Postby ChicagoCoasters on August 12th, 2018, 2:14 pm
What if we get a Mack Launch just like SFMM is possibly getting. Sure they might be cookie cutter rides but I don't think they will be if this happens. Still on board with the RMC T-Rex. What if not only the setting in the Waterpark is a red herring, what if the whole teasers are and they are trying to make us think it will be a launch coaster. I love fast launches. TTD is in my top 3 coasters so I would definitely not be disappointed if it is the fastest acceleration on a roller coaster.
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Postby IssaCoaster on August 12th, 2018, 3:24 pm
ChicagoCoasters wrote:What if we get a Mack Launch just like SFMM is possibly getting. Sure they might be cookie cutter rides but I don't think they will be if this happens. Still on board with the RMC T-Rex. What if not only the setting in the Waterpark is a red herring, what if the whole teasers are and they are trying to make us think it will be a launch coaster. I love fast launches. TTD is in my top 3 coasters so I would definitely not be disappointed if it is the fastest acceleration on a roller coaster.

I think S&S would be the company to choose for the fastest acceleration on a launch coaster.
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Postby Ilovthevu' on August 12th, 2018, 10:33 pm
I know so many are pointing to S&S. What about Takabisha which is a Euro Fighter 1000. It has a LSM launch.
https://rcdb.com/9795.htm

Except for Mystery Mine which has the indoor part, these Euro-Fighters don't seem that expensive compared to other companies.
This one with 2,198 feet was only about $6 million in 2004.
https://rcdb.com/2229.htm

Edit - Prices went up though as a much smaller Krater ride is listed at $10 million...
https://rcdb.com/4386.htm
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Postby staticshadows on August 12th, 2018, 10:49 pm
A Takabisha clone with a slightly steeper drop is opening in New Jersey in March/April 2019 at American Dream Meadowlands. It is being marketed as a record breaking coaster. Not sure Six Flags will work with Gerstlauer on a new project after the New Texas Giant lawsuits.
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Postby Muck Finnesota on August 13th, 2018, 8:51 am
Here's a suggestion I saw thrown out on another forum that seems like it would be a total Six Flags move and has me worried:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhQmgDkpUgI

I hope not.
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