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Postby jmanporty7 on July 11th, 2018, 5:09 pm
Would that mean they would have to get rid of the 2 helix's at the end of the ride from both sides, if they were to do RMC Eagle?
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Postby staticshadows on July 11th, 2018, 5:25 pm
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IssaCoaster wrote:
So they can't build on top of the structure at all? I thought it was if they tore it down they couldn't put anything in that spot.

No that’s not true. I used to believe that as well but I’ve found it to be false from city laws. Anything could be built in the spot as long as it stays 50 feet away from Washington.
Did they reduce it? Used to be more than 50 feet from what I remember. Do you know what's the distance limit on I-94?

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Yes, Gurnee redid all of their zoning a few years back and worked with Six Flags on the new rules for district C-5. The houses across Washington aren’t part of Gurnee and will most likely be redeveloped when Gurnee annexes the property in the future.

c. The following setbacks are required for all structures and parking areas:
(1) 100 feet when abutting any residential district, which must be maintained in a natural state. This buffer yard replaces any other buffer yard required by this Ordinance. When groups of trees die in any buffer yard adjacent to residential that result in the opening of views into the park, landscape material must be installed to fill such gap, as mutually determined by the site user and Village Administrator.
(2) 50 feet from Washington Street.
(3) 150 feet from Route 21 and I-94.
(4) 150 feet from Grand Avenue and Six Flags Parkway. Signs are permitted in this setback when permitted by Article 13.

Pages 76-77 of this document have all of the rules.
http://www.gurnee.il.us/docs/default-so ... f?sfvrsn=0
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Postby IssaCoaster on July 11th, 2018, 7:07 pm
Thanks for the clarification. But I want to know who saw RMC on the Eagle and where is their proof?
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Postby Goku1910 on July 11th, 2018, 7:15 pm
staticshadows wrote:
Goku1910 wrote:
American Eagle 1981 wrote:[quote="IssaCoaster"]

So they can't build on top of the structure at all? I thought it was if they tore it down they couldn't put anything in that spot.

No that’s not true. I used to believe that as well but I’ve found it to be false from city laws. Anything could be built in the spot as long as it stays 50 feet away from Washington.
Did they reduce it? Used to be more than 50 feet from what I remember. Do you know what's the distance limit on I-94?

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Yes, Gurnee redid all of their zoning a few years back and worked with Six Flags on the new rules for district C-5. The houses across Washington aren’t part of Gurnee and will most likely be redeveloped when Gurnee annexes the property in the future.

c. The following setbacks are required for all structures and parking areas:
(1) 100 feet when abutting any residential district, which must be maintained in a natural state. This buffer yard replaces any other buffer yard required by this Ordinance. When groups of trees die in any buffer yard adjacent to residential that result in the opening of views into the park, landscape material must be installed to fill such gap, as mutually determined by the site user and Village Administrator.
(2) 50 feet from Washington Street.
(3) 150 feet from Route 21 and I-94.
(4) 150 feet from Grand Avenue and Six Flags Parkway. Signs are permitted in this setback when permitted by Article 13.

Pages 76-77 of this document have all of the rules.
http://www.gurnee.il.us/docs/default-so ... f?sfvrsn=0 [/quote]

From what I remember any part of eagle that is currently outside those boundaries (there aren't anymore) they can only build within its current footprint.

Looking at Google Maps that doesn't give RNC a lot of options for the barrel because it's barely over a hundred feet away from the fence of the I-94.... They would have to stay inside the structure and if Steel Vengeance is any indication they could pull that off easily.

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Postby Tardis1972 on July 11th, 2018, 8:52 pm
Jacklw6499 wrote:RMC eagle will most likely be for 2021. Should be a massive project. As for next year's attraction, it's gonna be something enthusiasts have been wanting for a long time. Get excited ladies and gentleman.


Hopefully it's our long a waited full circuit launch coaster. Are you saying you know what the attraction is?
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Postby IssaCoaster on July 12th, 2018, 11:00 am
Tardis1972 wrote:
Jacklw6499 wrote:RMC eagle will most likely be for 2021. Should be a massive project. As for next year's attraction, it's gonna be something enthusiasts have been wanting for a long time. Get excited ladies and gentleman.


Hopefully it's our long a waited full circuit launch coaster. Are you saying you know what the attraction is?

I doubt he knows. But if we get a full circuit launch coaster, would Six Flags make it good or make it trash? I can't tell. I did hear that Full Throttle was a good ride though. So if we get that it would be fine. I hope it would be something better.
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Postby RandomDoof on July 12th, 2018, 1:39 pm
Was at the park today, found some metal tubes with red flags on them. Saw 4 but only in the front of the clearing near STT. https://imgur.com/mq7vKG9
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Postby JaminOut on July 12th, 2018, 3:01 pm
RandomDoof wrote:Was at the park today, found some metal tubes with red flags on them. Saw 4 but only in the front of the clearing near STT. https://imgur.com/mq7vKG9


Who was saying earlier that red flags = coaster?
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Postby Goku1910 on July 12th, 2018, 3:11 pm
JaminOut wrote:
RandomDoof wrote:Was at the park today, found some metal tubes with red flags on them. Saw 4 but only in the front of the clearing near STT. https://imgur.com/mq7vKG9


Who was saying earlier that red flags = coaster?
Red is used for electric so it doesn't imply any sort of ride.

Red: Electric power lines, cables, conduit and lighting cables
Orange: Telecommunication, alarm or signal lines, cables or conduit
Yellow: Natural gas, oil, steam, petroleum or other gaseous or flammable material
Green: Sewers and drain lines
Blue: Drinking water
Violet: Reclaimed water, irrigation and slurry lines
Pink: Temporary survey markings, unknown/unidentified facilities
White: Proposed excavation limits or route
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Postby IssaCoaster on July 13th, 2018, 10:54 am
Goku1910 wrote:
JaminOut wrote:
RandomDoof wrote:Was at the park today, found some metal tubes with red flags on them. Saw 4 but only in the front of the clearing near STT. https://imgur.com/mq7vKG9


Who was saying earlier that red flags = coaster?
Red is used for electric so it doesn't imply any sort of ride.

Red: Electric power lines, cables, conduit and lighting cables
Orange: Telecommunication, alarm or signal lines, cables or conduit
Yellow: Natural gas, oil, steam, petroleum or other gaseous or flammable material
Green: Sewers and drain lines
Blue: Drinking water
Violet: Reclaimed water, irrigation and slurry lines
Pink: Temporary survey markings, unknown/unidentified facilities
White: Proposed excavation limits or route

At least we know they're building something
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Postby IssaCoaster on July 13th, 2018, 10:55 am
Goku1910 wrote:
JaminOut wrote:
RandomDoof wrote:Was at the park today, found some metal tubes with red flags on them. Saw 4 but only in the front of the clearing near STT. https://imgur.com/mq7vKG9


Who was saying earlier that red flags = coaster?
Red is used for electric so it doesn't imply any sort of ride.

Red: Electric power lines, cables, conduit and lighting cables
Orange: Telecommunication, alarm or signal lines, cables or conduit
Yellow: Natural gas, oil, steam, petroleum or other gaseous or flammable material
Green: Sewers and drain lines
Blue: Drinking water
Violet: Reclaimed water, irrigation and slurry lines
Pink: Temporary survey markings, unknown/unidentified facilities
White: Proposed excavation limits or route

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Postby AirTimeDaz on July 13th, 2018, 11:44 am
speculation season is probably my favorite time of the year, followed in a close second by construction season!
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Postby Goku1910 on July 13th, 2018, 11:46 am
It'll be better this year with Holiday in the Park. Maybe.

Six Flags is alway late on construction.

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Postby _FuryBull_330_ on July 13th, 2018, 12:54 pm
^ Yeah we can't deny that.

Also I heard rumors that SFMM is going to get their first 20 million dollar addition since the Premier Age and that can open up opportunities for other parks including Great America.
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Postby SFGAMNUT9302 on July 13th, 2018, 2:12 pm
It looks like Capex will normalize between $135-$145 Million per year. That's what Premier was spending back in 2005 and 2006, but they spent almost all of that money on major coasters and let the parks turn into dumps.

There's nothing wrong with spending $20 Million on a coaster for one park, but you can't add 4 $20 Million coasters in one year while your parks fall apart and services erode. lol
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Postby CoasterRiderSC on July 13th, 2018, 3:13 pm
SFGAMNUT9302 wrote:When it comes to the American Eagle and RMC. I would love to see it! It would be extremely expensive to use IBOX track on 9,000 + feet, so they would probably end up going with topper track.

The Great American Eagle would almost certainly be a GP magnet. Look what RMC did to Mean Streak. They took one of the worst wooden coasters in the world and turned it into one of the best Roller Coasters in the world.

Who ever thought Mean Streak would end up being one of the most popular rides at Cedar Point? lol



I made this prediction elsewhere but I'll repeat it: IF they do Ironhorse/RMC Eagle, the new name will be "Steel Eagle"! And the year to do that is 2021, the 40th anniversary!
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Postby CoasterRiderSC on July 13th, 2018, 3:24 pm
IssaCoaster wrote:
Tardis1972 wrote:
Jacklw6499 wrote:RMC eagle will most likely be for 2021. Should be a massive project. As for next year's attraction, it's gonna be something enthusiasts have been wanting for a long time. Get excited ladies and gentleman.


Hopefully it's our long a waited full circuit launch coaster. Are you saying you know what the attraction is?

I doubt he knows. But if we get a full circuit launch coaster, would Six Flags make it good or make it trash? I can't tell. I did hear that Full Throttle was a good ride though. So if we get that it would be fine. I hope it would be something better.



If we get a new launcher, then we can finally say goodbye to V2!!! #2 on my list of rides to come down!
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Postby IssaCoaster on July 13th, 2018, 11:28 pm
_FuryBull_330_ wrote:^ Yeah we can't deny that.

Also I heard rumors that SFMM is going to get their first 20 million dollar addition since the Premier Age and that can open up opportunities for other parks including Great America.

Magic Mountain is not in a huge need of a coaster right now. Neither is Great America tbh... but us and Great Adventure need it way more than they do. Maybe we can use that 20 million to extend the length of Goliath :lol:
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Postby SFGAMNUT9302 on July 14th, 2018, 4:59 am
I'm glad they have cleaned up Magic Mountain and focused on flats rather than coasters, which is what they really needed. Magic Mountain has a great roller coaster collection and after they add their 20th, I hope they continue to focus on flats and further beautifying the park and obviously fixing up older coasters.... Hopefully giving Viper the Blue Hawk treatment in 2020 for it's 30th anniversery.

As far as Great America goes? Corporate seems hell bent on adding as many Roller Coasters to this park as possible. Coaster wise, we have been much better off than Magic Mountain and Great Adventure, post-bankruptcy

Attendance levels are reaching levels that we have't seen since the 90's and Six Flags has record EBITDA. So I'm not one to second guess their strategy. It's clearly working so far.
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Postby _FuryBull_330_ on July 14th, 2018, 9:46 am
^ Yeah that's great but I would like to take a break of roller coasters coming to this park (you can throw all the tomatoes you can once I come back). I just think they should focus on the family rides and more attendance means more line waiting.
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Postby Muck Finnesota on July 14th, 2018, 10:00 am
Jacklw6499 wrote:...something enthusiasts have been wanting for a long time.


I'm taking this with a giant grain of salt, but as it is a speculation thread, the first thing that comes to mind is a legitimate sitdown looper. Vekoma is doing wonderful things nowadays with that style of coaster. A Lech Coaster clone, or something along those lines would be at the top of my list.

Lech Coaster: https://rcdb.com/11034.htm
Formula (launched looper): https://rcdb.com/12362.htm

Actually, a B&M Gigacoaster would be at the top of my list, but since this is Six Flags...
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Postby IssaCoaster on July 14th, 2018, 10:56 am
I just want a great coaster to come to the park. Not just some gimmicks to and clones. But we'll see. I know they're gonna add a good one soon
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Postby IssaCoaster on July 14th, 2018, 12:33 pm
Any updates on the construction lately?
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Postby Goku1910 on July 14th, 2018, 12:34 pm
IssaCoaster wrote:Any updates on the construction lately?
Not really. I'm at the park now and I see no significance of the pipes spotted a few days ago and the red/orange markings are simply for the leftover utilities from Pictorium that are still buried.

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Postby staticshadows on July 14th, 2018, 12:51 pm
I have only seen one survey marker by Whizzer from the train. I am guessing this is just being used as a benchmark or reference point for the surveying. It is best to put that in a place that won't be disturbed by construction.
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