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Postby Chitown on September 14th, 2014, 7:58 pm
I recently purchased the 2015 Guiness book of world records and Goliath is nowhere to be found. Steepest wood goes to Outlaw Run and tallest wood goes to El Toro.

My question is did Goliath not make the records because a late opening prevented Guiness from making it official or does Guiness not recognize Goliath for any records due to it pretty much being a hybrid?
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Postby JimPanky on September 14th, 2014, 8:34 pm
GBOWR fail. Im very disappointed.
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Postby gottastrata33 on September 14th, 2014, 11:36 pm
I've heard talk that Goliath was denied the records due to it not being a true wooden coaster but I don't see proof of that anywhere.
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Postby Sporlo on September 15th, 2014, 1:16 am
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Postby CoasterNick3157 on September 15th, 2014, 1:17 am
Scott ask your friend, he supposely told GBOWR that it's not a wooden coaster and they took his word. Our home park never gets recognition.
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Postby [jonrev] on September 15th, 2014, 5:07 am
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Postby Brewersdawg828 on September 15th, 2014, 5:31 am
gottastrata33 wrote:I've heard talk that Goliath was denied the records due to it not being a true wooden coaster but I don't see proof of that anywhere.


So wouldn't outlaw run have been denied steepest drop if this was the case?
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Postby Chitown on September 15th, 2014, 9:13 am
CoasterNick3157 wrote:Scott ask your friend, he supposely told GBOWR that it's not a wooden coaster and they took his word. Our home park never gets recognition.


I hope you don't seriously believe that.
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Postby w00dland on September 15th, 2014, 9:23 am
If anyone here has ever been a part of getting a Guinness World Record you'll know how much of a giant pain in the ass it can be. The verification process is expensive and takes a lot of time, I'd say its more likely that the coaster didn't open early enough for the publishers to get the record into the 2015 book than them listening to a random coaster enthusiast's opinion.

Goliath is still a hybrid though. :lol:
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Postby tp41190 on September 15th, 2014, 12:54 pm
It's probably a good idea that not everyone drank the koolaid on this debate.

Look very closely at the pictures of Goliath and Outlaw Run. I agree with GBOWR in that Outlaw Run is a true wooden coaster and should deserve the record over Goliath.
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Postby DejaVu2001 on September 15th, 2014, 1:04 pm
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It's the same freakin' track :roll: Whether it is painted orange or not does not change anything.
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Postby Superman on September 15th, 2014, 4:01 pm
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Postby tp41190 on September 15th, 2014, 5:31 pm
Orange paint actually adds to the structural integrity of the track...pick up an engineering book for once :roll:
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Postby FParker185 on September 15th, 2014, 5:38 pm
Guiness doesn't actually go around bestowing records upon record setting things, in order to be recognized you have to apply to them then that starts the process. Any word on if the park ever applied for a record, I never heard anything about it. And I kinda doubt that they did, the park is much more worried about marketing over reality, if they do apply though, perhaps they can also get the record for wolds cleanest theme park and nations best water park. I think also in the park somewhere they claim worlds best funnel cakes, though just saw the same sign the other day at SFStL
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Postby DejaVu2001 on September 15th, 2014, 6:01 pm
tp41190 wrote:Orange paint actually adds to the structural integrity of the track...pick up an engineering book for once :roll:


That's great, but it still doesn't magically make Outlaw Run a wood coaster and Goliath a steel coaster :roll:
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Postby sfgam-fan on September 15th, 2014, 6:39 pm
DejaVu2001 wrote:
tp41190 wrote:Orange paint actually adds to the structural integrity of the track...pick up an engineering book for once :roll:


That's great, but it still doesn't magically make Outlaw Run a wood coaster and Goliath a steel coaster :roll:


That only works with dark paints. Lighter paints don't have enough pigment :roll:
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Postby CoasterNick3157 on September 16th, 2014, 12:25 am
Chitown wrote:
CoasterNick3157 wrote:Scott ask your friend, he supposely told GBOWR that it's not a wooden coaster and they took his word. Our home park never gets recognition.


I hope you don't seriously believe that.

Hell no I don't but he kept on and on like he had the powers to make them not label Goliath as the tallest fastest.
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Postby Muck Finnesota on September 16th, 2014, 8:30 am
FParker185 wrote:I think also in the park somewhere they claim worlds best funnel cakes, though just saw the same sign the other day at SFStL

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Postby tp41190 on September 16th, 2014, 8:46 pm
CoasterNick3157 wrote:
Chitown wrote:
CoasterNick3157 wrote:Scott ask your friend, he supposely told GBOWR that it's not a wooden coaster and they took his word. Our home park never gets recognition.


I hope you don't seriously believe that.

Hell no I don't but he kept on and on like he had the powers to make them not label Goliath as the tallest fastest.


I take it Man Child had crappy Wifi in the Ward for his Skype call with GBOWR.
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Postby Luxornv on September 22nd, 2014, 1:17 am
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DejaVu2001 wrote:
tp41190 wrote:Orange paint actually adds to the structural integrity of the track...pick up an engineering book for once :roll:


That's great, but it still doesn't magically make Outlaw Run a wood coaster and Goliath a steel coaster :roll:


That only works with dark paints. Lighter paints don't have enough pigment :roll:


Put flames on the train. That makes it faster.
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Postby Ace on October 6th, 2014, 8:10 pm
sfgam-fan wrote:
DejaVu2001 wrote:
tp41190 wrote:Orange paint actually adds to the structural integrity of the track...pick up an engineering book for once :roll:


That's great, but it still doesn't magically make Outlaw Run a wood coaster and Goliath a steel coaster :roll:


That only works with dark paints. Lighter paints don't have enough pigment :roll:


As a paint chemist both of these statements hurt my head.

As for the record I am guessing the park never applied for them as somebody mentioned before it is a pain in the ass and why go through all the trouble when you have already marketed it as a triple record breaker and nobody except enthusiasts questioned it.
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Postby Jacklw6499 on October 8th, 2014, 5:50 pm
That's too bad. Haven't seen much activity in the forums since the 2015 announcement. How has everyone been?
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Postby stockboy300 on October 11th, 2014, 7:15 am
Goliath went down to one train last Sunday what happened. Wheel blow apart again?
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Postby sfgam-fan on October 12th, 2014, 11:57 am
stockboy300 wrote:Goliath went down to one train last Sunday what happened. Wheel blow apart again?


Yes. It's because they forgot to paint the wheels.
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Postby stockboy300 on October 12th, 2014, 7:38 pm
sfgam-fan wrote:
stockboy300 wrote:Goliath went down to one train last Sunday what happened. Wheel blow apart again?


Yes. It's because they forgot to paint the wheels.

They paint the wheels?
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