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Postby Ilovthevu' on August 13th, 2018, 10:37 pm
Trex or Raptor. I give up if it's not one of them. And Screampscape said we were getting a waterpark addition last year along with Larson FIREball / Ring of FIRE. The guy is just not always right. The guy doesn't even know stuff 3 days ahead sometimes. His official news is good, but his rumors are just those sometimes.

And it's funny... The stand up coffin ride (they do the teasers from) looked like it was closed today -lol. When I go to the waterpark anyway, that slide is probably the shortest wait in the entire waterpark.
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Postby anewman35 on August 13th, 2018, 11:03 pm
The zoning board meeting this week got cancelled (I assume because there was nothing for them to discuss), so that should confirm that whatever the ride is, it's under 200 feet.
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Postby anewman35 on August 13th, 2018, 11:05 pm
This is from the Magic Mountain board on Theme Park review, do with it what you will:

You guys can take this as you will but from what I have been told by friends who know people at S&S that they denied that SFMM is getting a coaster from S&S. The dude did say SFGAM is getting a S&S coaster focused on speed and not inversions. Take this as you will.
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Postby gottastrata33 on August 14th, 2018, 12:29 am
anewman35 wrote:This is from the Magic Mountain board on Theme Park review, do with it what you will:

You guys can take this as you will but from what I have been told by friends who know people at S&S that they denied that SFMM is getting a coaster from S&S. The dude did say SFGAM is getting a S&S coaster focused on speed and not inversions. Take this as you will.


While I’d appreciate 100+ (duh) a focus on speed just needs to be anything over 73mph for GAm to get guests excited about it being the fastest in the park. Also - who is this & if it’s real, we should be excited. I just feel everyone took off so fast with the launch coaster ideas that it’s all were all thinking about. I’ve never ever wanted summer to end quicker than it does until our rumors start gettin buck wild cause I just NEED to know wtf were getting lol
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Postby IssaCoaster on August 14th, 2018, 12:56 am
https://youtu.be/TgaWXVIfTHM Would this be something that Six Flags would install at Great America? It seems to go with the SPF 1000 they are talking about.... sort of
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Postby JackGlass on August 14th, 2018, 1:00 am
Here's the S&S 4 across trains found on Extreme Rusher. Something like that would be a nice fit for the front of the park in my opinion.
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Postby gottastrata33 on August 14th, 2018, 4:02 am
1. That ride sounds like it’s in a mall.
2. Those coasters look shakey as hell.
3. That launch is incredible.
4. If we get one, I hope It’s more unique than that cause they’ve made a few & the layout really isn’t that great.
5. Those seats look uncomfortable.
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Postby jmanporty7 on August 14th, 2018, 9:10 am
IssaCoaster wrote:https://youtu.be/TgaWXVIfTHM Would this be something that Six Flags would install at Great America? It seems to go with the SPF 1000 they are talking about.... sort of


It is a clone of another coaster after all, and that's right up their alley for Six Flags.
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Postby IssaCoaster on August 14th, 2018, 9:33 am
gottastrata33 wrote:1. That ride sounds like it’s in a mall.
2. Those coasters look shakey as hell.
3. That launch is incredible.
4. If we get one, I hope It’s more unique than that cause they’ve made a few & the layout really isn’t that great.
5. Those seats look uncomfortable.

I bet S&S has perfected their launch coaster model by now. I really hate how there is a trim right in the middle of the first drop though. I also have to admit, it sounds like it was rough. Couldn't be any worse than American Eagle on a bad day though. I was just surprised to see that ssc1000 and spf1000 are strikingly similar. Coincidence?
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Postby Muck Finnesota on August 14th, 2018, 10:45 am
IssaCoaster wrote:https://youtu.be/TgaWXVIfTHM Would this be something that Six Flags would install at Great America?


I don't know if Six Flags "would" - I guess we'll find out- but these are the Chinese designs that were being discussed up-thread. There are a few variations on that layout (some have inversions) but the video you linked shows the gist of it. People have wanted something along the lines of Mr. Freeze for quite a while, and this would that on steroids (and full circuit, to boot).
If indeed we have an S&S launcher coming here, I'm hopeful it would be very similar to those Chinese examples. They look great, and I've wanted one to be built stateside for years since I first learned of them- to have one built at my home park, of all places, would be fantastic.

S&S makes other launchers too, though. I hope it's not a garbage Sky Rocket II knockoff (Gale Force) that a shitty boardwalk park in Jersey built and struggled with for two years to get working. Those are great rides...for a park like Santa's Village. They are multi-launch LSM, whereas the Chinese examples are pneumatic (single) launch.

Fun side note about Gale Force: SkyHighCoasters (they will be erecting whatever GAm is building) were involved with the construction of Gale Force. It doesn't mean much, but interesting nonetheless.
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Postby IssaCoaster on August 14th, 2018, 11:03 am
Muck Finnesota wrote:
IssaCoaster wrote:https://youtu.be/TgaWXVIfTHM Would this be something that Six Flags would install at Great America?


I don't know if Six Flags "would" - I guess we'll find out- but these are the Chinese designs that were being discussed up-thread. There are a few variations on that layout (some have inversions) but the video you linked shows the gist of it. People have wanted something along the lines of Mr. Freeze for quite a while, and this would that on steroids (and full circuit, to boot).
If indeed we have an S&S launcher coming here, I'm hopeful it would be very similar to those Chinese examples. They look great, and I've wanted one to be built stateside for years since I first learned of them- to have one built at my home park, of all places, would be fantastic.

S&S makes other launchers too, though. I hope it's not a garbage Sky Rocket II knockoff (Gale Force) that a shitty boardwalk park in Jersey built and struggled with for two years to get working. Those are great rides...for a park like Santa's Village. They are multi-launch LSM, whereas the Chinese examples are pneumatic (single) launch.

Fun side note about Gale Force: SkyHighCoasters (they will be erecting whatever GAm is building) were involved with the construction of Gale Force. It doesn't mean much, but interesting nonetheless.

They built a lot of things at Six flags apparently. I just hope if it an S&S launch, they make it unique to Six Flags Great America like a lot of you guys have said. I doubt it though. But at least I won't have to go to the other side of the world to ride an S&S launch.
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Postby gottastrata33 on August 14th, 2018, 11:49 am
...those look great to you?

Out of all their launch coasters, the only ones that ever looked great were/are Hypersonic, Dodonpa, & Powder Keg. Dodonpa is an incredible world class coaster. The others like Bullet or Extreme Rusher have horrible & almost jarring looking layouts. They hold no comparison to it. Not one of them look smooth, they sound horrible & it’s literally just a series of awkward turns with little to no flow & tons of speed loss.

So yes, let’s hope it’s something unique cause those aren’t doin it. If it’s a “Dodonpa” I’m here for it.
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Postby Muck Finnesota on August 14th, 2018, 12:14 pm
gottastrata33 wrote:...those look great to you?

Out of all their launch coasters, the only ones that ever looked great were/are Hypersonic, Dodonpa, & Powder Keg. Dodonpa is an incredible world class coaster. The others like Bullet or Extreme Rusher have horrible & almost jarring looking layouts. They hold no comparison to it. Not one of them look smooth, they sound horrible & it’s literally just a series of awkward turns with little to no flow & tons of speed loss.

So yes, let’s hope it’s something unique cause those aren’t doin it. If it’s a “Dodonpa” I’m here for it.


You're making that assumption based on crappy POV videos. The reviews I've read (including this one from a fairly well traveled dude) say otherwise. They look great to me because they have interesting, extreme layouts- something GAm lacks apart from Batman and maybe Goliath (extreme), and Raging Bull/X-Flight (interesting, unique layouts). Hypersonic was an oval with a top hat that was scrapped for various reasons (including rider comfort), and you are probably going to be disappointed if you're holding out for a Dodonpa- S&S built a total of two of this type, the last being Dodonpa (going on 18 years ago now), and the aforementioned, defunct, Hypersonic. The bullet coasters look like they're the refined, evolved version of the Thrust Air, allowing for more complex layouts in addition to a great launch. With the pure shit Six Flags has been building as of late- RMC conversions aside- I would be ecstatic with something like that.

You mention Powder Keg, and I agree that it is a fantastic coaster (among my favorites). The Chinese coasters are basically cartoon-ish exaggerations of Powder Keg.
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Postby SaveTheWAVE on August 14th, 2018, 12:19 pm
I retract my statement that SFGAm is receiving a T-Rex. If the next teaser has the same guy riding the fastest coaster in the park (Bull) let’s look closely at what other numbers are introduced in the video. It may give a hint at the top speed of the new attraction. As an example, let’s stick with the sunscreen idea: If dude rides RB with SPF 30 then 73+30=103 mph which may hint at the top speed of the ride. Just a thought.
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Postby JackGlass on August 14th, 2018, 2:34 pm
Looks like Magic Mountain isn't getting a Mack. The same number on the track in that factory video can be found on the crates in Carowinds. The man in the video misspoke, Carolina not Califronia.


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Postby B&MGuy35 on August 14th, 2018, 2:47 pm
So I’m at the water park today and guess what I saw? Survey markers around the lazy river by the tornado. These markers were visible from the lazy river and on bolts of the tower tornado is on. At this point I think the park is playing with us...


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Postby Goku1910 on August 14th, 2018, 3:11 pm
B&MGuy35 wrote:So I’m at the water park today and guess what I saw? Survey markers around the lazy river by the tornado. These markers were visible from the lazy river and on bolts of the tower tornado is on. At this point I think the park is playing with us...


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Postby gottastrata33 on August 14th, 2018, 3:24 pm
Muck Finnesota wrote:
gottastrata33 wrote:...those look great to you?

Out of all their launch coasters, the only ones that ever looked great were/are Hypersonic, Dodonpa, & Powder Keg. Dodonpa is an incredible world class coaster. The others like Bullet or Extreme Rusher have horrible & almost jarring looking layouts. They hold no comparison to it. Not one of them look smooth, they sound horrible & it’s literally just a series of awkward turns with little to no flow & tons of speed loss.

So yes, let’s hope it’s something unique cause those aren’t doin it. If it’s a “Dodonpa” I’m here for it.


You're making that assumption based on crappy POV videos. The reviews I've read (including this one from a fairly well traveled dude) say otherwise. They look great to me because they have interesting, extreme layouts- something GAm lacks apart from Batman and maybe Goliath (extreme), and Raging Bull/X-Flight (interesting, unique layouts). Hypersonic was an oval with a top hat that was scrapped for various reasons (including rider comfort), and you are probably going to be disappointed if you're holding out for a Dodonpa- S&S built a total of two of this type, the last being Dodonpa (going on 18 years ago now), and the aforementioned, defunct, Hypersonic. The bullet coasters look like they're the refined, evolved version of the Thrust Air, allowing for more complex layouts in addition to a great launch. With the pure shit Six Flags has been building as of late- RMC conversions aside- I would be ecstatic with something like that.

You mention Powder Keg, and I agree that it is a fantastic coaster (among my favorites). The Chinese coasters are basically cartoon-ish exaggerations of Powder Keg.
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& you’re makin your assumptions based off those exact same crappy POVs. You don’t have to explain anything to me about Dodonpa or these thrust air coasters for that matter. I’m well aware of when these rides were built & what S&S has gone through including the incident that happened on RingRacer in Germany nearly a decade ago.

What we can discuss is MY opinion being different from yours. I’ll agree they look “cartoonish” but to agree with you in a bad way. Those layouts suck after the tophat/tunnel with losing speed & awkward turns. That’s my opinion. I’m not defending Dodonpa or Hypersonic for having better ones but their simplicity & flow are a lot nicer than those that have come after it.
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Postby _FuryBull_330_ on August 14th, 2018, 3:44 pm
So if it's a coaster I have to possibilities.

A launch coaster: That reaches its fastest acceleration in two seconds.

A Trex that reaches its fastest acceleration in two seconds after or between the drop

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Postby Muck Finnesota on August 14th, 2018, 6:12 pm
gottastrata33 wrote:& you’re makin your assumptions based off those exact same crappy POVs.

Not at all. My assumptions are based on reviews like the one I linked to. Images of the coaster on rcdb (etc.) are what initially piqued my interest in this coaster type. Of course I've watched the POV video- but that is far from enough for me to pass judgement on something I haven't ridden.
gottastrata33 wrote:What we can discuss is MY opinion being different from yours

Dude, not dismissing your opinion. No reason to get defensive. After all-
gottastrata33 wrote:...those look great to you?

You asked, I answered.
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Postby IssaCoaster on August 14th, 2018, 6:19 pm
JackGlass wrote:Looks like Magic Mountain isn't getting a Mack. The same number on the track in that factory video can be found on the crates in Carowinds. The man in the video misspoke, Carolina not Califronia.


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But what could they get then? I feel like they are getting a coaster.
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Postby gottastrata33 on August 14th, 2018, 6:19 pm
You’re right, I did ask after all. My apologies for gettin defensive. I just think they’re ugly as hell & LOOK bad but I dont really know if they are or not.

We seem to be defending something we both may actually know little about. While you’re basing it off POV/reviews, I’m basing it off POV & layout/appearance. But have I ridden One of them? No. So I can’t really judge fully now can I?

I also am not on board with this launch coaster & I so badly want to be wrong. This just feels like a wildfire rumor & it’s spreading so quickly that people can’t see anything else.
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Postby Muck Finnesota on August 14th, 2018, 6:33 pm
gottastrata33 wrote:You’re right, I did ask after all. My apologies for gettin defensive. I just think they’re ugly as hell & LOOK bad but I dont really know if they are or not.

No worries. Discussion boards are for discussion.
gottastrata33 wrote:We seem to be defending something we both may actually know little about. While you’re basing it off POV/reviews, I’m basing it off POV & layout/appearance. But have I ridden One of them? No. So I can’t really judge fully now can I?

Agreed. In fact, I try to avoid watching POV video of something I may realistically eventually get the chance to ride- one reason is for the surprise factor when my ass is actually in the seat, and another is to not go in having made up my mind, one way or the other. I have watched this one, among others, because it's in China. I just don't see myself going to China.
gottastrata33 wrote:I also am not on board with this launch coaster & I so badly want to be wrong. This just feels like a wildfire rumor & it’s spreading so quickly that people can’t see anything else.

Yup. In the end we'll all just be forced to have a Six Flags Day(!) and get an oversized Skywarp or something.
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Postby gottastrata33 on August 14th, 2018, 6:52 pm
Aw hell no! but where’s the lie? Lol
We’re gonna have to wait a while but I’m excited for CW’s announcement tomorrow.
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